I recorded a special edition of the podcast today, a discussion I had live with our mission team on the border of Ukraine actively helping settle refugees. After they finished their dinner, and as they were heading for a night of much needed rest, Pastor Byron, his wife Emily, Pastor JJ, Randy (Elder), and Irina and Masha shared about what is happening from their perspective. We talked about the faith to go into a war zone, how God speaks, and confirms, how are they feeling, and with Irina and Masha, we heard their painful perspective of what it's like for them to lose everything and be separated from their families and homeland not knowing the future. It was an emotional call. Join in the conversation and pray. PLEASE!
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Here's Ed Taylor with today's episode of lead to serve a
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leadership podcast. He welcome to a very special
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edition of the lead to serve podcast, typically were talking
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about leadership and servanthood and we are today, but in a very
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special way. We have a team right now On the
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Border in Ukraine. This is being recorded on Friday
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March 4th. So even if you listen to it at a
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later date, and we're going to be learning about Ministry,
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firsthand what it means to step out, go across the world into a
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war zone and be open and ready to be used of.
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Ward. So, be ready for what you're
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about to hear. You're going to have our small
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team that's there. And a few of the refugees share
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a little bit of their story. Let's get right into it.
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Byron. Is the leader of the team.
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Welcome. Thank you.
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You guys are finishing your second day on the ground.
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Yeah, so we landed traveled and got to the Border yesterday
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afternoon. And today was a second like a
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day's been simple so far. I know that looking at some of
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the some of the videos you're posting on your Instagram so you
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can connect for updates on Byron's Instagram, it's Byron A
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Johnson or we're also reposting those On the Calvary Church
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Instagram you can they'll give videos when they can.
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But so far the big question for for many that have been asking
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that that maybe you can ask answer for us today.
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Is that why go and why goes so quickly physically?
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And why not? Wait, that's been a question.
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Why not? Wait and see how things go out
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and then Go. What was it about?
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How did God stir up the urgency and what brought you and Emily
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to a place of obedience that JJ and Randy also came to Yeah.
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Just, you know, we lived in Ukraine for eight years and I
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was pastoring Calvary is a Persia there for a number of
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years and so the the country and the people will be paying our
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super dear to my heart and still as the news just watching the
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news and really not even the news but communicating with with
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our friends and Ukraine and see how serious it was, you know,
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just started to get that. First of all, just that
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compassion, in that the heart, Break over my church.
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There was there and the people there that are highly Miss
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admitted to our hearts. And so just last Saturday just
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worshiping the Lord in our, in our church service.
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The Lord just started to like release their, some things up in
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that. And we talked a little earlier
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that day just or DeVos, just like, and we we have to do
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something for the people that we love dearly and so, The decision
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came quickly. But it came at a point where we
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had a specific vision of just doing whatever he could
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specifically for the people of our church.
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And zaporozhye knowing that they were already headed towards the
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Border, many of them that we just had this desire to meet
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them at the border, to give them a hug and a friendly face.
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Emily. How did you?
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I'm sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead.
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I would just add to that Emily. What were you?
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You weren't at DeVos that morning.
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You were probably at home or you are separate from.
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Byron is as the Holy Spirit was speaking.
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How did God speak to you in that in going?
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Yeah. So I'd also just been talking to
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my friends and Ukraine deterring what was happening and hearing
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their stories. And so, basically, barn and I
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usually in the morning and we do R&D go separately, and then we
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pray together before we go to bed.
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And so he was, he did his Devo separately, went off to to work
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and then I did my DeVos later and so the Lord without a
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communicating really struggles of our hearts.
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And as I was reading, I was just like, man.
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I have half a mind to just get on a plane and just go go get
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them. And I knew that my my one of my
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closest friends ER was getting close to crossing the border.
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And I just I just thought to myself, I think I just need to
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go get her and I thought this is crazy.
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I'm not going to tell anyone about this and then Byron came
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home for lunch that day and he was like, you know, I was doing
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my DeVos and I have half a half a mind to just go and just go
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get Get our people and go to the border.
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And so the fact that we had the exact same idea and felt like
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that kind of burning in our hearts and the Lord.
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After reading his word, it really United us and so we were
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ready to move quickly because we both have the same stirring and
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total Unity. So really all we needed was your
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blessing because we felt like a best to do it but your like our
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spiritual dad and we just wanted to make sure you do agree with
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us. Yeah, it happened very quickly
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but my Spirit like the Holy Spirit within me quickly agreed
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that even though I didn't and maybe you didn't, I'm not
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entirely. Sure have have all of it put
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together. Like, I like that.
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I like things to be put together.
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I kind of like a plan or at least much as I can, but I
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didn't have that completely. But my spirit was like, yes, I
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know that you guys have a connection there.
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I know that we have a connection there because part of the team
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here, it we visited in 2019 and we were there.
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Worshipping with the, we were there with the church, we were
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there with the families, we were there in the services walking,
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the streets, having that hot chocolate, that was just like
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pure chocolate. Although I didn't have any, I
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did see it. And right there on the streets,
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you know, going into the chocolate shops and living life
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among those the ukrainians. And and it's, it was really neat
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to see how things came together, Pastor Jay Jay, you know, you're
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in a different position, a different place.
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You weren't pastoring in Ukraine.
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But you are our missions pastor. And how is it that God was
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leading? You, you know, you have a very
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full life, you run a very successful business, you are
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also serving in a high-capacity, you have young kids.
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You really like all of that? How did it work with you to put
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on your heart to join the team? I would say really it started at
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Wednesday before at that meeting in prayer.
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Really Byron was praying for the ukrainians and in his prayer he
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teared up and just in my own prayer in that you know that
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meeting, I just you know just what it is to pray before the
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Lord and sometimes not even have words but just that groaning in
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the spirit, you know, just what his tears represented and Didn't
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that weekend. Saturday night, you had
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mentioned to a pastor friend from Hawaii, potentially going
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to Ukrainian sitting there, you know, with my wife Lisa.
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I was just and I want to go with that guy.
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And says, then I got a text from bar in the next morning for
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Saturday night. I rationalize it all the way,
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all the way with everything that I have going on, but getting
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attacked from Bayern the next morning he says hey you know,
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talk to Pastor Greg has a blessing you know, you told me
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to ask you if you want to go and I was in a media.
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Yes. You don't know.
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I would say, you know, to just being here and seeing everyone
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United, it's very right and it's very God ordained for us to be
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here and you know, just with these ladies coming across and
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and just seeing immediate relationship, you know, just
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seeing a death, you know, just a lot of a lot of reminders of
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all, you know, is he, you know, didn't want to be away from, you
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know, the different churches and just seeing by earning them only
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operate, just such a special Passionate that capacity has
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been quite the blessing and the Lord just keeps opening doors
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and just with where we're staying and I just with the
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connections and the people that we meet, it just is favors all
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up on everything. Randy, do you have a similar
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story and you have a full life as well?
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And it came very, very quickly. I mean, from from Sunday to
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Wednesday, you guys are on a plane Wednesday morning.
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What how did it come about for you to Up and be a part of the
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team. I was there on Saturday night as
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well listening and having some of the same thoughts that JJ was
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having about has really, I'd like to go and then I was
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listening To service at home on Sunday.
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And I heard you talk about it. And I thought came over to me
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and said, hey, you should text and that's going to need a
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fourth person. And, and I was like, no, that's,
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that's silly antenna. And and they're numb.
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I told my wife, I said, hey, you know, sounds like Emily Byron
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and JJ are going in Ukraine. She goes, so you're going to
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text him. So am I still wrestled with it
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for about another hour or two? And then I texted and when you
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guys know pretty much what I do and who you are.
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So another question that that's coming up, Byron Pastor Byron is
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is what what are we doing and you know, to keep everything
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safe and we know that they'll be some generalities.
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But what are we? We doing, why are we there?
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I believe the Lord just put really specific mission on my
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heart or is there's, there's great need in all of the
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countries surrounding thousands of people that we could we could
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meet their needs and physical needs or whatever like that.
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But the Lord could adjust the specific Vision on my heart just
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to to meet anyone from from the zaporozhye to church who wanted
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to cross. That we would meet them and help
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them get onto their. Their next place I'm going to In
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a safe way. And so that's what we're doing,
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where we ended up once. Once we booked our tickets, I
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sent out a message to our whole church saying.
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Hey, if you are planning on leaving, we will be at this
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location and we will meet you and help you get further into a
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more stable place. And so with that the Lord's
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before, it's really a blessing it we Received a family last
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night, right? When we got in and we made a
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couple more border runs today and so we have 12 12 people with
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us with nine or so coming tomorrow.
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And so that we know of but it's just you know, one of those
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things that's just really on my heart.
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Like I wanted to take in the midst of just tragedy and Chaos
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something something familiar something comforting, something
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for me to serve the the guys and the husband's in the church that
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I love dearly can't be there with them but I could at least
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Do something for their family. Yeah.
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The the, the principle that I keep reminding our church and I
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think you guys are living out and it's super hard.
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It's a super hard principle to to live out, but it's it's
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factual, it's biblical, it's spiritual and it's it's
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something like this, we can't do everything.
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And I think that there's a as you're surrounded by need, as
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you're surrounded by, great traumatic need and challenges,
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we can't do everything. And we have to settle in our
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hearts that we can only do what's in front of us and that
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the Lord would lead us and guide us because even though we can't
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do everything, we must do something and we want to fulfill
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the mission of this personal connection.
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We, you know, we're blessed to have an eight-year relationship
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with Ukraine through you and Emily and through the ministry
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that you've had in both of the areas that you've served in and
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the the real relationships that you've built and another Isabel
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that I think is important. That's lived out right now, by
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you being there or wherever we might have Ministry is that that
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there's the principle of sending by going and there's the
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principle of sending by staying but together, we're the team and
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that's sort of why we opened up the relief fund where we're
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receiving resources, primarily primarily were only receiving
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financial support right now because we just don't know what
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the future will hold. But already from the relief
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fund, it is put For people on the ground or in a plane on the
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ground, in a vehicle with resources and nine.
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People already have been settled and as I did, I get that number
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right, 99er with 12:12 with you. Now, nine, perhaps tomorrow.
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And after you guys get a good night's rest and and the the
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sense that we are with you, we as the language of ministry.
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So we are with you, you're our team, this is our church not
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only our church in Aurora but also in Asia that's our church.
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There are brothers and sisters and then ministering to the
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flock, you know, the Bible speaks about serving serving the
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church, you know, most of all to the household of faith, but
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while we're serving the church were surrounded by so many other
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opportunities. I just read an article today.
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They posted on Calvary Chapel.com, been been there in.
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I don't know how to say the city he's in, but Pastor been is, in
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slit, slit do It. If the book.
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Yes. So he just posted today on
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Christianity Today. That he's got a Ministry down in
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the bomb shelters, in his City and a lot of the refugees are
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coming through his City. You know, heading out of the
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country and just so much opportunity.
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It can be overwhelming and Emily.
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You had mentioned a little earlier.
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When we talked before we started the recording that feel the
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feeling part of this that you're a little tired exhausted.
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Sticky talk about how you're responding emotionally to
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taller, this, what is it making you feel?
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And how? How is everyone feeling?
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Well, I think I think that the overarching emotion has to be
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grief. Yeah.
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Because there's great loss and everyone's losing something and
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even if even if you don't feel like you've lost something, just
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the idea that a war on this scale is happening, we've all
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lost something, you know, that that sense of Peace in Europe
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and so, And you know how the Bible talks about just sharing
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one another's burdens taking on each other's burdens and so I
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think that that's kind of been my role in this is just talking
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to the women that are coming and trying to let them tell me their
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stories and receiving their burdens and so I'll probably cry
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as we're talking. I can't help it.
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It's just It just comes and goes and we're all crying together.
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All of us, women children crying and the way that the guys just
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been really able to support me as I'm kind of taking up their
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burdens as I can. Yes, we're all bringing them to
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the Lord. But just I have I just I'm
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feeling a lot of things and so just like in the car today just
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I just broke down and had to cry and I had to try really hard.
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Yes. And Great for me and pulled
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myself together and then we got to the border and picked up the
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next group we have we have a couple of the ladies that you
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have with you that no English. Could you introduce one of them
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if they're willing to share what they're feeling right now and
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how they're feeling what's happening in their country and
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then maybe how they're feeling be, when you guys showed up to
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minister to them. Like, would anyone want to share
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that and firing if they do want to share it with you, help
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introduce them to us if they don't it's perfectly, okay?
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Okay. Yeah.
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So we have your, your she's one of one of our good friends.
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She's actually one of my interpreters at Calvary Zeb
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Rocha and so we have a great relationship teaching the words
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together. So here she is.
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Hello. Hello.
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So Eric, can you share with us? What, how you know, how as much
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as, as much as you can, to give us Insight?
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Like, how are you feeling with everything happening in your
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country right now? Actually, it's hard like to say
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about this. Because tells me there is no one
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of the hardest thing about, it's called situation.
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Now that for example, we like women and children, hello to
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leave Ukraine and to get to a safe place and to stay here but
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like, oh, oh, oh man. I should stay because they are
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in Ukraine and they aren't allowed to these Ukraine.
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So if the X-ray, the top to leave husband that like that
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size of border and to cross without them, so like I said to
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Emily yesterday that maybe in like in the worst day of my
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life, Look like God, gave me my very best the best, the best
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help. No, I ever need it.
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Because families here, a little, like, need help crossing the
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border, because as I said, they are only women with children and
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they must do it by themselves and Of course, we all scared
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about this and help from here when when you know that someone
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will like me to you and will bring you and your children and
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your luggage to safe place and it just means a lot for us.
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But as for me, like it's also so So amazing support and
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encouragement like, to be here together because it's really,
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really complicated when you should make this decision
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because us personally for our family.
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And my husband, we left our city several days, several days
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before, and Now in front of our house, we have some locals with
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some soldiers and like some we we say like empty tanks,
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hedgehogs are so and it is hard because our mom usually called,
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people don't want to leave. So I'll mom just, you know,
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house and My mom in-law also they they are that place still
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and yeah and we're always constantly like prey up rain for
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them. Yeah.
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But also as for me, I saw so like a wonderful way how God was
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leading us through all this way because from our first step,
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when we left our house, And like deal with God this place is it
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was absolutely like God's miracle every step and II.
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So appreciate all prayers which people are listed for us because
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I understand it's only got ten. He just literally is carrying us
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through all these Horrors. Yeah, and I understand that
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absolutely got no mercy and his grace for us.
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So, thank you so much for sharing that.
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I mean, it's good to hear first-hand for us, so many
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thousands of miles away. The only information that we get
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is typically reading the news or watching the news and to hear
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your heart and to hear you express the pain of Separation.
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But So there's a joy and an appreciation of grace and mercy
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and Byron. Is there anyone else that would
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like to share before we move forward?
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Yeah, we are. We have one more person that she
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needs a translator. Okay, well that I'm like, that's
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even that's great whenever you're ready, this is your
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sister, Masha, Masha. Okay, it's actually her twin.
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Oh, okay. Hello.
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Hello. Yeah.
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She's taking a second, she's crying.
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Okay. That's okay.
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Very hard and very overwhelming and it's okay if she doesn't
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want to, She really wants to. Okay then it's okay if we wait?
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Yeah, begin truest. I decided that I had to leave my
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city and my family. Yep, their color will not do
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what you can. I came in with two daughters
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When whoosh, it wasn't very athletic and I had to leave my
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husband and my two sons behind a sudden, some about them.
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So they had to stay in the house because they can't leave the
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city right now. Let me have the bullet, which is
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already an extremely difficult decision to leave by myself.
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Reporter Jung Mi over your holiday will Emily and I use it.
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I don't hear yourself.
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Yes, it was knowledge to my been eating at McDonald's.
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Treatises is Nicole mahogany too quiet.
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So we really just wouldn't have even gotten on the train because
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if we hadn't known that he was going to meet us at the border
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because we just don't even know where we're getting to.
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It is not. We should go to but you also
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have our daughter with us and our friend, Exposure brings my
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love. You said so much because they
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also had to leave their husband and doubt it behind and
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I don't know. Specifics.
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Thank you so much for sharing and giving us a just you're
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hearing it directly from you. That's very courageous and brave
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of you of everything. You guys are doing.
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I'm very proud of you that you guys are facing all the
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challenges. and I mean, it's just Some it's really hard to to
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to imagine in our minds hear what you guys are facing and we
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pray for the Holy Spirit to strengthen.
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You could you translate that Emily somehow?
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Maybe it is. We love you very much.
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For the Creepypasta autonomy has it made.
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We love you too and we so appreciate because maybe you
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even like, don't recognize how much does it mean for us now?
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What are you do? Thanks.
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Well guys you know I know you guys got to get some rest and
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we've been on together now for about a half hour.
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So there's anything that you want to share from where you are
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right now just anything you want to There's a whole lot of people
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connected to this little trip of yours.
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The Lord has shown great favor to communicate it in so many
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different ways. So there's a lot of prayer
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support. There's a, there's a lot of
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folks standing with you eager to see your success to hear of your
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success. But is there anything on your
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heart that you want to share tonight before you go to bed?
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Anybody, any of you? I think for me, I'm just being
00:28:51
reminded that good works are good, but what are they really
00:28:56
work without the inward man being cared for without the
00:28:59
spiritual, man cared for. And so we just feel really
00:29:03
honored that the Lord would and trust these women to us these
00:29:08
children to us that we can, we can not just receive them and
00:29:12
take them to safety, but that we can uplift their It and point
00:29:17
them to Jesus. And when we got Europe from from
00:29:21
the border with her girls, she asked if I would sing a worship
00:29:24
song to her notion and it was it was probably one of the most
00:29:29
difficult and beautiful things that we've ever done.
00:29:34
And so just, we've also, just really realized that when
00:29:39
there's great darkness and there is great Darkness right now.
00:29:45
There's still no dark. Nurse that can stop the light of
00:29:48
the Lord and he always finds a way and he always finds a way to
00:29:52
live our past as we lean not on our own understanding, but we
00:29:56
trusted him at all, always so good.
00:29:58
I was looking through the old pictures Emily of our trip in
00:30:00
2019 and one of the, I think it was a video came up with you.
00:30:06
Practicing worship. You were leaning worship that
00:30:09
day. And the brother next to you was
00:30:12
practicing in a singing next to you with a baby in his hands.
00:30:18
And it was a beautiful reminder of the fellowship family.
00:30:23
I also have a video of, you know, how I to I took everyone's
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video and ask them to say hi to our church.
00:30:31
So I also have that video as a memory.
00:30:33
It was just a beautiful, beautiful, visit and your right
00:30:37
and to think you know what sparked that was you, they
00:30:39
wanted you to sing because your voice.
00:30:41
You were leading Worship in Russian for goodness sake.
00:30:45
It was beautiful. Yes, this through it is it was
00:30:50
beautiful, it was wonderful. Anything else before we before
00:30:54
we let you guys rest. I didn't want to say one thing,
00:30:58
I just really in Philippians this morning, you know, always
00:31:01
when you're in the midst of the trip like this.
00:31:03
I mean, well, not that I remember is unique and amazing
00:31:07
but you know, Paul is reminding Us in Philippians 2, just really
00:31:10
understand what matters. You know in this matters.
00:31:13
Yeah, that's good. Randy, do you have anything yet?
00:31:17
Sorry, I was going to get, they just like you know, just seeing
00:31:24
how it's coming together. Lied with support for for our
00:31:30
little fucking death Rosa. The people in the country that
00:31:34
were in that the local church that we're connected to now that
00:31:37
we never even met before and just like just so thankful for
00:31:42
for his church. Randy anything.
00:31:49
Let's go share a quick story of what happened that afternoon.
00:31:54
So we pulled up to the location away for some folks to ride and
00:32:03
JJ and buyers, like, hey, Randy, you should go get me some
00:32:06
coffee, they were just messing with me a little bit and they
00:32:10
both wanted coffee house, like no, and they both got out to get
00:32:15
some. The meet some folks, and, and
00:32:20
call Sudden Skies use comes walking up out of the blue for
00:32:23
two cups of coffee and handsome to me.
00:32:27
And so, that's how good God is. Wow.
00:32:33
Well, thanks for your time. I know you're exhausted.
00:32:35
I know that one of the one of the ways that you one of the
00:32:37
things you shared was, you're emotionally exhausted.
00:32:40
I know your jet lag and emotionally and physically
00:32:42
exhausted, but the Lord is with you, we're with you and we pray
00:32:47
blessings and encouragement and a good night, rest tonight, for
00:32:50
all that's up ahead. Thank you so much.
00:32:55
All right, love you guys. God bless you, bye-bye!
00:32:59
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00:33:40
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