In this special edition of Lead2Serve, Pastor Ed talks about the biblical expectations of spiritual leaders during this prolonged crisis. On the foundation of a recent staff discipleship day here at Calvary, Pastor Ed takes us through Numbers 13 and 2 Timothy 4, reminding us of the key role God has given to spiritual leaders in times of great crisis. You're leading, either for the Lord or away from Him, but you're leading. It's important that we carefully follow the Lord during times of crisis. If the leaders get distracted, the people get destroyed! Listen in and share
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This is Lee to serve with Ed Taylor, a leadership podcast, a
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welcome to today's edition of lead to serve podcast.
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This is the place where we want to learn how to be better
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servants so that the Lord can encourage Us in his leadership.
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I know it's been a while since our last episode I've been
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working on putting Season 3 together.
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But today, I really believe it's important that I speak to those
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of you that are leading and serving in the church perhaps
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even in our church. But how important it is in our
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recognition of how hard it is during covid to lead and never
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before really in our generation, is there a greater need for
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strong submitted spiritual leadership, then now This
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podcast is Loosely based upon the time.
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I recently spent with our staff here at Calvary Church, talking
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through things bringing about some Unity dialoguing about the
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challenges that we've been facing.
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It seems like every single week. There's A new challenge, every
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single week, There's a new difficulty, its it seems like
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the political atmosphere that In right now, the covid atmosphere.
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The the idea of feeling like the government is oppressing, the
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church, all of that pressing in besides the marriage issues,
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besides the pornography issues, besides the financial issues.
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There's just a lot of pressure in people's lives and we wanted,
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we just want to continue every week, be reminded by the holy
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spirit that he wants us to. Lead the people to the Cross to
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get their eyes on the Lord, not to have the message of the
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Gospel co-opted by some other cause or some other concern.
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But to stay focused. I want to invite you on this
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discussion that I had with the staff recently and we started in
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Numbers Chapter 13, I was just listening to some of the
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conversation going on in our staff meeting and numbers 13
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immediately popped into my mind. And I was reminded of how we
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commonly remember numbers 13 as Moses, sending in the spies.
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That's how I refer to it all the time.
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The twelve spies went in and, you know, two spies came back
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with a good report. 10 had a bad report.
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So we started reading in numbers 13 verse 25, and they returned
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from spying out the land for 40 days.
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And after, after they departed, came back to Moses and Aaron and
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all the congregation Of the children of Israel, the
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Wilderness of Paran at Kadesh, they brought back word to them,
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to all the congregation, showed them the fruit of the land.
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Then they told him said, we went to the land where you sent us a
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truly flows with milk and honey. And this is the fruit.
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Nevertheless, the people who own the land are strong, the cities
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are fortified very large, moreover, we saw the descendants
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of aynak their the amalekites to own the land, the Hittites, the
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jebusites, the amorites. The Canaanites are all there.
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And then verse 30 says Caleb, this obviously stirred up, the
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people because it says, Caleb quieted the people before Moses
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and said, let us go up at once and take possession for.
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We are well able to overcome it but the men who had gone up with
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him said, we are not able to go up against the people for they
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are stronger than we. And they gave the children of
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Israel bad report of the land, which they had spied out saying,
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the And through which we have gone as spies as a land that
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devours. Its inhabitants, all the people.
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Whom we saw in it are men of great stature, they're Giants.
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The descendants of a neck and were like grasshoppers in our
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own side it's such a sad situation where these men these
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spies as we're referring to him right now went and it's a
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classic example of the same group of people seeing the same
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thing at the same time and coming to radically different
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conclusions. Does that sound familiar here?
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We are in the body of Christ. We're so much division is taking
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place so much animosity, so much finger-pointing even pharisaism.
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You know, you're not doing it right and you're not doing it
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right, and you're not doing it, right?
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And you should do it this way. And and, and it just stirring up
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the church and and stirring up people.
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And it's so divisive, and we're all experiencing the same thing,
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but we're coming to very different conclusions.
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But here's the thing. These were not spies That should
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not be there title. These were not spies.
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These were leaders elders from one.
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From each of the tribe, these weren't these were leaders sent
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out to spy out the land these. These as we cannot forget, that
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we are leading people and maybe we have a role here and there.
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Our roles are changing depending on the circumstances.
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In this case, the role was added to these leaders to go spy out
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the land. But they weren't spies, they
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were God's men. And in the case of art
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application, God's men and women leading, the church through a
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significant crisis and how careful we need to be to give
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good reports, to keep people's eyes on the Lord.
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These guys aren't career spies. They were trusted men called to
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be leaders to survey the land that Bible says, in verse 2.
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God says, send out men to spy that to the land that I'm giving
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them. So it really doesn't matter what
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they see. It doesn't matter how hard it
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is. Yeah, the spies are there, but
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God's given them. Yeah, the walls were big, but
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God has given him to them. God is going to bring Victory
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and tie in times of change. I want to speak to you directly
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like, in times of change, we can be easily distracted.
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Dad and we can get off on topics and things that have no bearing
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eternally and we can be overwhelmed by the circumstances
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and we can be overwhelmed by the odds and we can be overwhelmed
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by all the decisions that need to be made being sensitive to
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being distracted. Will then get us back on to that
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place where our eyes are back on the Lord.
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And we're seeking the Lord. What is it that he wants to do
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in particular with this covid crisis?
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And all the political ramifications and all the
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conspiracy theories. And all of the things that are
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coming out. The restrictions, the
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requirements of masks, the court things, the lawsuits we
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approached our church early on and some of you come to our
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church and I want to remind you of this.
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We stepped into this with three words.
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Remember, patient's preference and humility, patience.
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Because we need to have patience with one another and other
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People's viewpoints and how they're viewing things.
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And what we walking in the fruit of the spirit patient's
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preference, we need to remember that our churches in the
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community for the long-term for the long game.
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And so if it means dying to ourselves and putting on a face
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covering so that we can be in a place, we could be more readily
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used in our community and just tell our community we care about
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you, we may not view the virus like you do or even A political
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view like you do, but that's not what we're worried.
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We're not concerned about that. What we're concerned about is
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the gospel. And so, will we put on a face
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covering? If it means that the Gospel of
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Jesus Christ can come into your life.
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Yes, we'll will wear the mask and then the third word,
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humility. I mean everything we got to
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Humble ourselves in order to die to ourselves That's just the way
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it is. That we don't think of ourselves
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more, highly of ourselves but we think of ourselves in light of
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Eternity. And so recently in our state,
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there was a lawsuit that I read where a couple of churches, sued
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the state and they won on two points, they won on the need the
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that they saw that they don't want to wear mastering services
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and they don't want to limit the amount of people that come to
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their service and that opens up A an opportunity for us to make
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a decision on what we're going to do in terms of face
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coverings. But but let's just say that.
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The lawsuit says completely 100%, you don't have to wear
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face, coverings. And then we've come to that
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conclusion and we say, okay, we're going to make face
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coverings optional, which I hope to do one day, but that may stir
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up. All this excitement.
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Yay. We won.
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We won against the state and they can't tell us.
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What What to do. But what have we want, exactly
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what have we want, what is it that are we going to have a mask
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burning service? Now, how does that communicate
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to the community? I have personal whatever a
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person might view about face coverings.
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In covid-19 view is we admit that covid is real and that it
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has hurt people to the point of death.
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And I'm not a doctor, I'm not going to get involved in being a
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doctor or trying to be. I'm not, and I don't become a
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doctor because I read an article.
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I don't become a doctor because I read or watched a YouTube
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video. I'm just a man that is a trying
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to lead and pastor and just be open to wisdom from God.
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But would we be more excited about a court Victory than we
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are about salvation? Are we so excited?
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Like we are going to put up a fight.
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Right. And we're going to demand to be
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recognized when you walk into the land here, like the like,
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these leaders and look at the the land, the leaders are not,
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the leadership of the world is not favorable to the church
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there, especially those that are unbelievers in places of office,
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they don't respect the church. They don't believe in the
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church. They don't, they are blinded
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spiritually, and And here we are as Leaders.
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What are we going to promote? I'm not going to promote.
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Yay, we won a victory. As much as I'm going to promote.
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Yay! We have a spiritual battle that
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we're fighting a spiritual battle.
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And I think about of the 12 men that went out. 10 of them came
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back with a demoralizing response.
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And ruined a whole generation and it just reminded me as we
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were talking with the team yesterday that our response
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during this time, can either encourage a generation or ruin a
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generation perhaps. That we are what we find with
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Caleb and Joshua is they came back with a positive response to
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the word of God. They got that they want to, you
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know, Caleb's trying to quiet the people to hey wait a minute,
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get your eyes back on the ward. Like we're going to do what
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God's called us to do, and how important it is to keep our eyes
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on the Lord and not on circumstances and when we come
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to these Times when we don't know what to do and we don't
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know exactly what decisions to make.
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We want to fall back on the things that we do know, and I
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can say, is a pastor and a leader, I am not interested in
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getting our and discipling. Our church to be excited, more
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excited about a court case than they are about sharing the
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gospel with their neighbors. And even as I record this, we
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just had a service last night in person and three people
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responded to the gospel. And I prayed with them to
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receive the Lord while their masks.
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Us were honor their face. Coverings were on.
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They re-entered into the kingdom of God.
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Don't misunderstand me. I'm not a, I'm not in favor of
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all these restrictions and I'm they make me uncomfortable too,
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but we've got to lead during difficult times.
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And Times of change in chaos often if there was ever a time.
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If there was ever a time when this verse comes to light, you
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know, fast-forwarding now into the letter that Paul wrote to
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Timothy. So I want to fast forward all
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the way to Second Timothy because sometimes this verse is
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misunderstood and I just want to bring Clarity to it.
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So you understand you that are leading the church right now you
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that are following leaders. Paul is writing to Young Timothy
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and second Timothy chapter 4 and he says, I charge you therefore
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before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the
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living and the dead, as if at his appearing and his kingdom,
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preach. The word be ready in season and
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out of season convince rebuke exhort with all long suffering.
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For the time will come. When they will not endure sound
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Doctrine, but according to their own desires because they have
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itching ears will Heap up Themselves teachers, they'll
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turn their ears away from the truth and be turned aside to
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fables. Now, of course, Timothy had his
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own issues in his own church of things that were tickling ears,
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that were itching. But many people interpret verse
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3, the time will come when they will not endure sound Doctrine.
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As if that speaking of unbelievers, it's not.
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It's speaking of the church and if there was ever a time you're
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witnessing right now. Pitching ears among Believers
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because of their personal preferences.
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It's now we literally have people leaving from the door of
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our church to go to another nearby church because at nearby
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church is not handling this crisis.
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Like we are, I mean, this is their church.
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This is where they worship is, where their kids are growing up,
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but because we're handling, and in such and such a way, not a
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sinful way, just a more cautious approach, a more measured
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approach of patience. Friends humility another church
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down the street, or down the road or down.
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The highway is doing things differently and no restrictions
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and don't worry, we don't believe them a virus and we
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don't Listen, we need to preach the word in love, and convince,
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and rebuke and exhort because this is all a test.
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This is a test. And because so many things are
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outside of our control, you find people really wrestling for
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control so that they can control something their own Comfort,
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their own. He's and if they don't agree
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automatically, there's opposition.
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And if you lead, if you're leading correctly, like these
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two spies, you can often feel like you're in the minority, and
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if you feel like you're in the minority right now, you're in
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good company with men, like, Joshua and Caleb.
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And you two need to be focused on the word of God, for your own
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life focused on the power and presence of the holy spirit
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being faithful to do, what God has called you to do so that you
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can continue to love and serve the people.
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It's good to be reminded that, you know, God has not hindered
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by the government that there are limitations may be on buildings.
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And Gatherings with God is never limited by the God.
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He rules over the governments of man.
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And we can't be more excited by a Court ruling, then what God is
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doing, in people's lives with the gospel, nothing changes for
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the church, it continues to do what it's always done.
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It continues to find a way when there is no way and we want to
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celebrate the victories of changed lives.
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We want to celebrate the victories of ministering to the
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poor and to the needy. We want to celebrate the
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victories of. Yes, we come together and
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worship and prayer. Bible study but wow, how are we
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discipling as Leaders? How are we discipling our kids,
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the people that are calling the church the people that are
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reaching out to the radio, stations and calling live,
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call-in shows and coming to services or very, very broken.
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Marriages pornography grief, Wayward kids, prodigals
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hopelessness, Enos addictions. Can I say, I even spoke to a
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young man last night for Great Lengths, first time in our
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church, he didn't care about mask.
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That wasn't the thing on his mind.
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The thing on his mind were the things in his life.
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He didn't stop for a moment ago, you know, I can't, I don't even
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know why I'm here. I don't want to wear like no he
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began to share x y&z with me. I was life.
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I got to pray with him and encourage them, you know,
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somebody praying for a prodigal kid.
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They don't care about masks, someone dealing with addiction
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doesn't care about restrictions. And every moment that you're
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distracted by circumstances is a moment that were no longer
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Faithfully aware of the movement of the Holy Heard among us.
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And so what was Timothy called? The Dewey he was told to preach
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the word to be ready. To be available.
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And so today I on lead to serve it to special broadcast.
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I just plead with you to be ready to see ourselves, not as a
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segment of the body. But is a part of the whole to
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resist division to resist putting other Ministries down or
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other churches, down or other believers down.
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But jumping in full force, not not not really getting caught up
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in the momentary issues. That you know, the pulpit was
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given to man to preach the gospel.
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That's the purpose of that Pulpit is for the edification of
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the body, through the teaching of the word of God.
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Paul was very clear to Timothy because Timothy is going through
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all this stuff, right? He's got all these issues,
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what's happening? People are upset, people are
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leaving. People are mad, Timothy fellow
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leader, Ed preach, the word. Be ready in season and out of
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season. Convince people Pastor rebuke
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people leader, exhort people be long-suffering but teach them it
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says, second Timothy 4 verse 2 because the time will come, when
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many in the church, won't endure sound Doctrine.
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You'll hear Calvary Chapel. We always use that one.
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We're teaching this. Oh you know people won't endure
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the verse-by-verse systematic teaching of the word of God.
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The expository teaching but that's a great application.
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That's not the interpretation. What won't be?
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Endured is the sound teaching that convinces, that rebukes,
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that exhorts that teaches. We have a responsibility to
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teach people as a part of the whole, not just a segment
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because this trial to where it's going to end, and we're
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discipling people for the next trial.
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How do we endure? How do we make it through?
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And we we want not to be distracted ourselves so we can
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help people. Not to be distracted so that we
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can get their eyes on the Lord, get their eyes and sharing the
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gospel so that the Hopeless will find Hope and and we will be the
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ones to help them get there. And you know, when the election
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ends and there's either a another four years of this
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Administration or a new Administration.
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They're still be a group of people that are discontented,
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they'll still be a group of people that are upset.
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Still the country will still be just as divided as ever has.
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Ben and The Mask rulings and the lawsuits.
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They don't simplify things. They only complicate things and
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it's just another distraction. You know, we're not going to
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have a mask burning service when this is all over.
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So as ye we can Stick it to the Man.
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No, no. We recognize the role of
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government and we know government overreach has you
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might look into go all, you know, at just he just says, do
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it. And don't don't Don't say a
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word. No no no, no.
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You miss please. Don't misunderstand me.
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I recognized government overreach.
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I can see it. I experience in our own State
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ice. I understand the same things
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that you're seeing, the foundation of our country.
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I was listening recently to a guy teaching, a were teaching a
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what he called a Bible study but for 20 minutes he shared about
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the government in the history of the government and all and I'm
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like, I started thinking, how's that message going to preach in
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Thailand? How's it going?
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Reaching Ukraine, or how will the gospel, how will the word of
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God? Get into the hearts of people
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and transform lives? That's what our pulpits need.
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That's what we need to be doing. We need to be preaching the word
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and the more, and more distractions, that come the more
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and more opinions. That come the more and more
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divisions come or more Temptations to get our eyes off
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the Lord. And what's needed is endurance,
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this sense of lifting up and supporting that's what the word
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endure me. Ins here, in verse 3 of second
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Timothy the lifting up and supporting of the teaching of
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God's word and receiving it. And so we spent a lot of time
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With our staff yesterday in our team.
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The just be reminded we can't get caught up in all the
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confusion. We've got to lead people to the
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one thing that always matters. The gospel that Jesus Christ was
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lived died and rose again. And I want to acknowledge that.
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I know it's hard right now. And I know it's difficult and I
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know it's challenging for you. It's challenging for all of us.
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And I know that people are leaving your church, people are
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mad. There are other churches in town
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that seemed to have a larger draw, because they might be
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preaching a different message or taking a different approach, but
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be fully convinced in your own mind.
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As the Holy Spirit, leads you to preach the word.
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Be In season and out of season, convince rebuke, exhort with all
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long-suffering, and teaching. And just for those, that that
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have stuck with me to the end that May think that, I don't
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love our country. I do, I love this country.
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I love the freedoms that we have.
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I'm grateful for the men and women that have gone before us
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and laid their lives down for the very freedoms.
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I'm not anti Freedom at all. I believe that we are to
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participate in our government. I believe that we are to be
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Godly men and women, living out our lives, within the construct
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of our country and that where to vote our Biblical conscience.
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And we're Vote for, you know, remember Jesus is not on the
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ballot. So we can't vote for Perfection
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and righteousness. We're voting for sinfully flawed
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men, and we need to cast that vote with a clean conscience
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before the Lord, for the issues and the things that are going to
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affect our kids and our grandkids, and our
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great-grandkids, I believe in that.
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But my calling, as a pastor, Shepherd is to lead you to the
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one who will lead you. The Holy Spirit, I believe, God,
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is yours. I believe Jesus is the chief
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Shepherd. And the best thing I can do is
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lead you to the shepherd, not encourage distraction.
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I'm not going to encourage distraction in you.
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I'm not going to encourage you to get excited about things.
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That don't matter. That won't last forever.
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I want you to be excited about the things of God.
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I want you to be talking about the things of God.
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I want you to be living out. The things of God, I want us to
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come together and worship so that we can leave And affect our
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culture in our community. And and so it's important to
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remember our influence. It's important to remember on
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this special edition of the podcast that we do have
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influence. We're not spies, we're not,
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we're not that, we're not the some of the title of our role
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within the body. We are leaders communicating and
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established word. God's word is fixed.
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God's promise. Cesare sure and yeah governments
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come and go oppression comes and goes difficulties, come and go
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and we will stand up for what is right?
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And we will stand up for what is good and we will stand up for
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what is Holy and we will stand up for what God has given, but
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we will preach the word and we will teach the word and we will
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convince. And so today, if you're a leader
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in God's church and you're tired, and you're weary and it's
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hard, I'm sorry, it is. I'm sorry that you're tired and
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weary We're all little bit under the pressure of what's going.
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But as you prepare for what God has given to you keep keep yours
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eyes on. Keep your eyes on the Lord and
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also Point others to the Lord, and we'll get through this
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together and the Lord will strengthen us.
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And even if we have to die to ourselves, you mean it's it's
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let's do it. Let's be patient with one
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another, let's show preference to one another and let's
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continue to go down in unit, in humility, right?
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Jesus said the greatest in God's Kingdom. so, servant of all So,
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I'd love to hear from you. Contact me through the website,
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Ed, Taylor, dot-org, Ed Taylor dot-org.
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You can contact me through there through my social media Outlets,
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communicate with me directly, email me, Ed Ed, Ed, Taylor
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dot-org. I love to hear from.
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You agree disagree, add subtract.
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I love to hear that the Lord is doing in your life know that
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we're praying for you. We're encouraged by you and I
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hope this little time was a strength and encouragement for
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you. Bless you guys.
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Thank you for joining us for this episode of lead, to serve
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with Pastor Ed, Taylor, a leadership podcast from Calvary
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Church in Aurora. Colorado, if you have a
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