# 45 - Joseph: The Dreamer - In this episode of The Chosen People with Yael Eckstein we explore the tension between divine favor and human jealousy as young Joseph's dreams of greatness ignite envy among his brothers. Witness the beginning of his extraordinary journey, where pride, visions, and God's sovereignty intertwine in a story of faith and destiny.
Episode 45 of The Chosen People with Yael Eckstein is inspired by the Book of Genesis.
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<v Speaker 1>Previously on the Chosen People Jacob. Jacob ran close to
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<v Speaker 1>the canvas wall and placed his face beside it.
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<v Speaker 2>And here my love.
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<v Speaker 1>Rachel closed her eyes and smiled. Having Jacob close helped.
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<v Speaker 1>She had longed to give him a child since the
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<v Speaker 1>first time they met. Now, after nearly a lifetime together,
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<v Speaker 1>here she was only moments away from her dream. She
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<v Speaker 1>propped her head up and nodded to the midwife. She
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<v Speaker 1>curled forward and pushed with all her might. The minute
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<v Speaker 1>Jacob heard those cries from the other side of the tent,
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<v Speaker 1>he ran in. His son cried in Rachel's arms. He
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<v Speaker 1>was the most beautiful thing Jacob had ever seen. Finally
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<v Speaker 1>he had a child born from love. All other blessings
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<v Speaker 1>in his life seemed to fade into the background as
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<v Speaker 1>he gazed upon his miracle child. He held him in
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<v Speaker 1>his arms. His beaming smiled revealed his old and cracked face.
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<v Speaker 2>My son, My son, I shall name you Joseph.
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<v Speaker 1>He kissed his son's cheek and laid him in the
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<v Speaker 1>arms of his mother. Out of all of his brothers,
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph carried the favor of his father. The boy would
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<v Speaker 1>grow up under the attentive wing of his parents, and
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<v Speaker 1>increase in knowledge, skill and pride. Great would be his
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<v Speaker 1>rise in his family, and great would be his.
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<v Speaker 3>Four In the land of dreams, a boy's vision sets
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<v Speaker 3>the course for destiny. Shall oh, my friends from here
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<v Speaker 3>in the holy land of Israel Amya l Extein with
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<v Speaker 3>international fellowship of Christians and Jews, Welcome to the Chosen People.
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<v Speaker 3>What is it about dreams that stirs our souls? Why
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<v Speaker 3>do visions of greatness ignite such flames of and why
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<v Speaker 3>do our dreams for the future sometimes bring anger, jealousy,
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<v Speaker 3>and envy. Like Joseph dreaming of the moon and stars
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<v Speaker 3>and bended knee as we journey through this tail inspired
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<v Speaker 3>by Genesis thirty seven one to eleven, ask yourself, our
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<v Speaker 3>dreams a gift? Were a curse? Is it the dreamer
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<v Speaker 3>who suffers? Or those who do not or cannot dream.
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph's sandy curls were damp, with sweat clinging to his forehead.
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<v Speaker 1>As he worked the fields, he looked over his shoulder,
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<v Speaker 1>comparing the angle of his swing with Judas. Although Judah
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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the oldest, he was certainly the leader among his brothers.
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<v Speaker 1>He stood taller than them, with tight muscles, wound around
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<v Speaker 1>his arms and legs. Joseph, nearly as tall and muscular,
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<v Speaker 1>already watched everything Judah did, mimicking his every motion. Yet
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<v Speaker 1>it was all from a distance. He dared not get
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<v Speaker 1>too close. He swung his sickle, binding the sheaves of
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<v Speaker 1>grain over his broad shoulders alone, listening to his brother's laughter.
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<v Speaker 1>His upper lip glistened with sweat, the first signs of
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<v Speaker 1>a beard breaking through. Wiping his face, he puffed out
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<v Speaker 1>his chest, threw the sickle over his shoulder, and strolled
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<v Speaker 1>closer to them.
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<v Speaker 4>Judah, I've devised a new sheathing system. If you go
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<v Speaker 4>from left to right, you'll have to return to pick
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<v Speaker 4>up the bundles and take them to the cistern. But
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<v Speaker 4>if you begin backward and work away from the cistern,
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<v Speaker 4>you'll cut a lot of time.
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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I didn't realize. Father put you in charge of
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<v Speaker 5>the fields over me. Go ahead, Joseph, continue.
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<v Speaker 4>I'm not in charge, Judah.
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<v Speaker 2>A good idea is a good idea, right?
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<v Speaker 4>Does it really matter who came up with it?
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<v Speaker 5>If the ideas came from someone who only works half
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<v Speaker 5>the time, then yes, yes it does matter. We work
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<v Speaker 5>the fields and tended the flower every day. You saunter
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<v Speaker 5>in and out of work as you please.
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph opened his mouth to reply, but then heard the
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<v Speaker 1>voice of his father calling out from the tents.
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<v Speaker 2>Joseph, come here, my boy. Ah, I have something to
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<v Speaker 2>show you.
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<v Speaker 5>Ah. There it is. The bell rings for you, Joseph.
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<v Speaker 2>Judah, I do it? Come here, my son. Oh.
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<v Speaker 5>Father needs his favorite by his side. Leave with your
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<v Speaker 5>ideas while we keep working.
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph turned to run down the hill and embrace his father.
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<v Speaker 1>Jacob wrapped Joseph in his arms and laughed. Judah watched,
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<v Speaker 1>tilting his head to the ten other brothers.
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<v Speaker 5>Take a good luck, boys. That's what fatherly affection looks like.
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<v Speaker 1>Simeon, the second born, sharp featured and sharper tongued, spat
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<v Speaker 1>in Joseph's direction.
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<v Speaker 6>He pads behind father like a puppy, yelps like one too.
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<v Speaker 6>I took an extra fig kick two days ago, and
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<v Speaker 6>the little rat told on me I'm a grown man
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<v Speaker 6>and got scolded for taking a piece of cake.
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<v Speaker 1>Reuben, the eldest, tall and muscular, already a father himself,
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<v Speaker 1>took Simeon under his arm, squeezing him playfully.
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<v Speaker 2>You're a grown man, all right, No need for more
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<v Speaker 2>fig cakes.
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph ran into his father's arms. Although he longed for
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<v Speaker 1>his brother's approval, Joseph saw his father's favor as far
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<v Speaker 1>more valuable. Jacob wrapped Joseph up and.
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<v Speaker 2>Squeezed, ah, my son, come in and see what we
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<v Speaker 2>have made you.
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<v Speaker 1>Jacob put his hands over Joseph's eyes and led him
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<v Speaker 1>into the tent.
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<v Speaker 2>Winter is approaching, and you've already grown out of your
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<v Speaker 2>old coat. Your mother has been hard at work getting
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<v Speaker 2>the material for this.
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<v Speaker 1>Jacob took his hands off Joseph's eyes. In front of him,
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<v Speaker 1>his mother held a long, flowing coat adorned with many colors.
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph's eyes shone at the sight. The coat's shoulders were
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<v Speaker 1>bright red, the sleeves deep blue, the hem purple with
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<v Speaker 1>silver patterns, and the straps brilliant orange. Rachel slipped the
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<v Speaker 1>coat on to Joseph and kissed his cheek. Joseph stepped
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<v Speaker 1>to the water basin and looked at his reflection. The
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<v Speaker 1>coat fit perfectly. Its shimmering colors showcased Joseph's favor over
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<v Speaker 1>his other brothers. It was a physical reminder that he
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<v Speaker 1>alone held his father's heart. Joseph walked outside with the coat.
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<v Speaker 1>The sun shone directly on it, causing the patterns to
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<v Speaker 1>pop in the light. Joseph turned and hugged his parents.
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<v Speaker 4>This is brilliant. I feel like a pharaoh.
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the colors suit you. Run along and return to work,
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<v Speaker 2>but try not to ruin your coat. Tell Ruben that
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<v Speaker 2>the well beside the fields is missing a few stones.
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<v Speaker 1>With the coat flowing behind him, Joseph sauntered back to
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<v Speaker 1>the fields. Reuben spotted him, rolled his eyes and warned
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<v Speaker 1>the others.
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<v Speaker 2>Here he comes. Behave yourselves.
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<v Speaker 1>The brothers scoffed as Joseph approached, his coat, shimmering in
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<v Speaker 1>the late afternoon sun. He made a spectacle of it,
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<v Speaker 1>fully aware of his favor.
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<v Speaker 4>Did you see what father gave me? Its design looks
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<v Speaker 4>good enough to be Egyptian.
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<v Speaker 1>Simeon scoffed and threw down his plow.
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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you can afford to wear such a.
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<v Speaker 6>Lovely coat, Joseph. You don't spend enough time working to
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<v Speaker 6>get it dirty.
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<v Speaker 4>Don't be bitter, Simeon. I'll be sure to let you
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<v Speaker 4>borrow it next time you visit the prostitutes in Timna.
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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the brothers gasped, Simeon's eyes widened, first
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<v Speaker 1>with embarrassment, then with rage. He drove his shoulder down
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<v Speaker 1>and tackled Joseph to the ground. The two of them
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<v Speaker 1>scraped through the dirt. Joseph was a head taller than Simeon.
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<v Speaker 1>He confidently swung his hips, wrapped his arms around Simeon,
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<v Speaker 1>and pinned him to the ground. Simeon kicked, thrusting Joseph back.
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<v Speaker 1>He lunged, but Joseph got the upper hand, locking Simeon's
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<v Speaker 1>shoulders and neck from behind.
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<v Speaker 4>Get your hands off me, ask nicely.
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph, entertained by his brother's begging, only laughed and squeezed harder.
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<v Speaker 1>His fun was short lived, though, as Judah took Joseph
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<v Speaker 1>by the coat and threw him into the creek bed
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<v Speaker 1>a few feet away. The brothers laughed. As Joseph sat
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<v Speaker 1>soaking wet. He looked up at Judah, straining to hold
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<v Speaker 1>back tears.
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, your old children.
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<v Speaker 1>Reuben helped Joseph out of the creek and patted his cheek.
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<v Speaker 2>Easy, little brother, your coat may be brighter, but your
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<v Speaker 2>blood is red, just like ours.
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<v Speaker 1>Reuben pointed to the blood dripping down Joseph's lip. He smiled,
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<v Speaker 1>wiped his lip, and nodded. The other brothers returned to work,
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<v Speaker 1>and Joseph picked up a plow and began to help.
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<v Speaker 1>For a moment, the brothers were at peace with one another. However,
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<v Speaker 1>there was always tension between Joseph and the others, and
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<v Speaker 1>unseen evil slithered in the reeds between them. The same
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<v Speaker 1>evil that devoured the heart of Cain was close by
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<v Speaker 1>in the Sons of Jacob, an evil that lurked in
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<v Speaker 1>the shadows, awaiting its moment to strike. Later that evening,
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph returned to camp, where Jacob and his wives prepared
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<v Speaker 1>a meal. The scent of dark, bubbling stew filled the air.
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<v Speaker 1>The brothers, soar from their labor, gathered around. Simeon dunked
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<v Speaker 1>his head in the water, while God and Asher dipped
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<v Speaker 1>their fingers in the stew. The end of the day
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<v Speaker 1>was a joyous event for the sons of Israel, with
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<v Speaker 1>their mothers preparing a feast and Jacob telling story. Children
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<v Speaker 1>played and servants laughed, but the mood shifted when Jacob
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<v Speaker 1>saw Joseph's face. He touched his son's chin.
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<v Speaker 2>What is this?
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph's eyes quickly darted to Simeon, then back at his father.
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<v Speaker 1>Jacob puffed his chest and turned to Simeon, Did you
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<v Speaker 1>strike my son?
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<v Speaker 4>Aren't I your son too?
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<v Speaker 6>Aren't you worried about the bruise on my back the
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<v Speaker 6>size of a goat?
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<v Speaker 2>Answer the question, Simeon, did you strike Joseph?
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<v Speaker 6>Yes, your precious jewel was scuffed a bit, but I'm
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<v Speaker 6>sure there's nothing a little kiss from Daddy can't help.
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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the brothers chuckled. Jacob was not amused.
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<v Speaker 2>Be careful of that sharp tongue, Sybyan. Joseph has told
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<v Speaker 2>me of your dealings in Timna. I know how all
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<v Speaker 2>of you have gone into the Canaanite cities to get
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<v Speaker 2>drunk and lounge about when you should be working.
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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the brothers sneered at Joseph. He had
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<v Speaker 1>been spying on them for quite some time, and their
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<v Speaker 1>wives had no idea where he had gone for knights
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<v Speaker 1>at a time, the brother's sins were exposed in the open,
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<v Speaker 1>and it was Joseph's fault. He had sniffed out their
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<v Speaker 1>sin like a hound and returned a bad report to
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<v Speaker 1>his father. Joseph saw every one of his brother's imperfections
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<v Speaker 1>as another foot of separation between him and them. Since
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<v Speaker 1>his father had given him so much favoritism, Joseph truly
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<v Speaker 1>believed he was superior to them. Pride puffed him up.
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<v Speaker 1>He would soon find out about the prison of pride.
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<v Speaker 1>It would ensnare him like a trap and isolate him.
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<v Speaker 1>His hubris would be his downfall. Throughout the night, Jacob
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<v Speaker 1>argued with Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah, holding them responsible
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<v Speaker 1>for leading their brothers astray. Their bickering was white noise
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<v Speaker 1>to Joseph, who was used to such sounds. He had
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<v Speaker 1>grown up amidst the endless square of his mother, aunts,
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<v Speaker 1>and their maid servants, all repeating the same spiteful jabs
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<v Speaker 1>and insults. Joseph sighed, peering through a crack in his
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<v Speaker 1>tent at the stars. The canvas moved gently with the
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<v Speaker 1>evening breeze. He took a deep breath. Rolling on to
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<v Speaker 1>his side, with his colorful coat draped over him, Joseph
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<v Speaker 1>drifted into a deep sleep, unaware of the trials ahead.
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph's eyes opened. He was standing in a field of grain.
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<v Speaker 1>The golden stalk swayed in the wind, a shimmering sea
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<v Speaker 1>under a sunless sky lit by another worldly glow. In
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<v Speaker 1>his hand, he found a sickle, and with it he
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<v Speaker 1>cut a large sheaf of grain, laying it gently on
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<v Speaker 1>the ground around him. His brothers toiled, their arms laden
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<v Speaker 1>with sheaves, which they placed in a circle about his Suddenly,
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<v Speaker 1>his sheaf rose high into the sky, lifting Joseph with it.
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<v Speaker 1>He looked down to see his brother's sheaves bowing before his,
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<v Speaker 1>a warm feeling welling up within him as he watched.
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<v Speaker 1>He smiled, arms raised to the heavens, until the dream
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<v Speaker 1>dissolved into the waking world. The rising sun peeped through
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<v Speaker 1>the entrance to his tent, pulling him back to reality.
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph arose, draping his coat over his back. The cool
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<v Speaker 1>morning air was sharp against his face. He moved to
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<v Speaker 1>the water trough, splashing his face and clearing the remnants
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<v Speaker 1>of sleep from his eyes. As the ripples subsided, he
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<v Speaker 1>saw Simeon's reflection in the water. Joseph looked up, meeting
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<v Speaker 1>Simeon's unblinking stare. Simeon said nothing, merely drawing some water
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<v Speaker 1>and taking a sip before dropping the ladle back into
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<v Speaker 1>the trough, splashly. Joseph in the process Issakar, the ninth born,
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<v Speaker 1>approached and handed Joseph a bowl of broth and a
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<v Speaker 1>piece of bread. He smiled, gesturing for Joseph to join
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<v Speaker 1>the others by the fire. Joseph sat down and began
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<v Speaker 1>eating the broths, warmth seeping into his bones.
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<v Speaker 4>I heard you laughing in your sleep last night.
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<v Speaker 6>What was that about?
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph nodded, his thoughts drifting back to his dream. He
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<v Speaker 1>should have remained silent and shrugged off the comment, but
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<v Speaker 1>could not resist the urge to share his vision.
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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I had this spectacular dream. We were binding sheaves
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<v Speaker 4>in the field, and my sheaf arose and stood upright,
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<v Speaker 4>and and then your sheaves gathered around it and bowed
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<v Speaker 4>down to my sheaves.
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<v Speaker 5>So are you to rule over us, Joseph.
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph realized immediately that he had made a grave mistake.
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<v Speaker 1>The brothers stood up, bowing mockingly before him. They laughed, scoffed,
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<v Speaker 1>and left him alone by the fire, their hearts hardened
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<v Speaker 1>against him. Jacob, however, had been listening from a distance.
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<v Speaker 1>He was familiar with dreams such as these, often sent
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<v Speaker 1>by God. He pondered them in his heart, as Joseph
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<v Speaker 1>should have, but Joseph sought any excuse to rise above
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<v Speaker 1>his brothers, craving their submission. The next night, Joseph lay
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<v Speaker 1>on his back, staring up at the stars. His eyes
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<v Speaker 1>grew heavy as the firmament glowed with galaxies stretching into eternity.
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<v Speaker 1>The crickets chirked, harmonizing with the evening breeze. As Joseph watched,
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<v Speaker 1>the stars began to move, and he felt himself being
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<v Speaker 1>lifted into the heavens. The wind blew swiftly, carrying him
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<v Speaker 1>up into the dark sky. Eleven stars flashed around him,
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<v Speaker 1>their brilliant lights encircling him. As before, the stars bowed
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<v Speaker 1>before him, and then the Sun and the moon appeared,
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<v Speaker 1>their light blinding yet halting to bow as well. Joseph
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<v Speaker 1>felt like a king, but a tinge of sorrow tugged
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<v Speaker 1>at his heart. Their reverence, he said, would come at
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<v Speaker 1>a great cost. He woke with a start, rushing out
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<v Speaker 1>of his tent to find Jacob and Rachel eating beside
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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the family. He sat down beside them,
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<v Speaker 1>his heart pounding.
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<v Speaker 4>Mother, Father, last night, I had another dream. Ah, the
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<v Speaker 4>King has had another vision. Please, my Lord, tell us
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<v Speaker 4>your dream.
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<v Speaker 1>The others laughed, but Jacob remained silent, eager to hear
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<v Speaker 1>Joseph's dream.
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<v Speaker 4>Well, it was similar to before, but this time there
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<v Speaker 4>were more. I was surrounded by the stars, and they
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<v Speaker 4>all bowed down to me. Even the sun and the
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<v Speaker 4>moon joined in.
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<v Speaker 1>Jacob looked down at the fire. He pondered for a moment,
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<v Speaker 1>furrowing his brow.
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<v Speaker 2>So not only did your brothers bow to you, but
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<v Speaker 2>your mother and I as well.
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<v Speaker 4>Father, I didn't mean to say that. I really don't believe.
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<v Speaker 2>Tell I bow to you, my son? Shall your mother
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<v Speaker 2>treat you as a lord?
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<v Speaker 1>Jacob turned and walked away, leaving Joseph stunned. His brothers
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<v Speaker 1>gave sly grins, grabbing their tools to work the fields.
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<v Speaker 1>No matter how true Joseph's dreams might be, his words
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<v Speaker 1>fell on deaf ears, Laced as they were with pride
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<v Speaker 1>and self righteousness. The days passed with a heavy air
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<v Speaker 1>of tension. Joseph's dreams, once a source of personal pride,
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<v Speaker 1>had become a point of contention among his family. His
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<v Speaker 1>brother's hearts grew colder, their patients thinner, and as Joseph
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<v Speaker 1>toiled in the fields, he could feel the weight of
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<v Speaker 1>their resentment pressing down on him, a silent, unseen force
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<v Speaker 1>waiting to strike.
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<v Speaker 3>In this story of Joseph and his dreams, I'm struck
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<v Speaker 3>once again by the real humanity of the Bible, the emotion,
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<v Speaker 3>the family tension. Jacob our ancestor love Joseph more than
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<v Speaker 3>all of his children. We feel that love, but we
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<v Speaker 3>also feel the weight of the coat of many colors.
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<v Speaker 3>It's a symbol of favor, yes, but also an emblem
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<v Speaker 3>of discord. Just imagine it being Joseph's brothers living in
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<v Speaker 3>the shadow of such obvious preference. Their hearts were twisting
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<v Speaker 3>and turning with jealousy. And it makes sense. The Bible
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<v Speaker 3>doesn't shy away from showing us the cracks and the
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<v Speaker 3>human soul, does it. But there's also a whisper of
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<v Speaker 3>something else in those dreams of Joseph's something divine. Bowdown, sheeves,
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<v Speaker 3>bow down stars, the hint at Joseph's future greatness, yes,
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<v Speaker 3>but not just that. They're also a glimpse of God's
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<v Speaker 3>greater plan. Joseph brothers only saw a favorite son and
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<v Speaker 3>their own lack of favor, but God sees a path
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<v Speaker 3>for his chosen people. Joseph's story reminds us of this
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<v Speaker 3>truth that no matter how broken our family, our dreams,
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<v Speaker 3>our hearts are, God does that work still, and it's
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<v Speaker 3>often beyond what we can see or imagine or dream.
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<v Speaker 3>Our story isn't over with our pain or our brokenness,
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<v Speaker 3>My friends, each of our stories is an essential part,
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<v Speaker 3>a chapter of a larger, greater book, a story written
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<v Speaker 3>by our creator. We all know that the dreams we
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<v Speaker 3>have at night are beyond our control. They dance through
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<v Speaker 3>our minds as we sleep, shrouded in mystery, often leaving
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<v Speaker 3>us bewildered when we wake. But the dreams we have
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<v Speaker 3>during the day, those we can shape. That's why it's
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<v Speaker 3>so important for us to dream good dreams, because our
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<v Speaker 3>dreams turn into ideas, which become actions, ultimately changing and
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<v Speaker 3>shaping the entire world around us. More than forty years ago,
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<v Speaker 3>my Abba, my father Abbe rail Eckstein of Blessed Memory,
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<v Speaker 3>dreamed of uniting Christians and Jews. He dreamed of lifting
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<v Speaker 3>millions out of poverty, giving them hope, and bringing hundreds
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<v Speaker 3>of thousands of Jewish people back to Israel. Just as
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<v Speaker 3>it says in the Prophets, people thought that his dreams
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<v Speaker 3>were crazy, and they thought that he was crazy for
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<v Speaker 3>dreaming them. But here we are, decades later, as the
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<v Speaker 3>Fellowship feeds and shelters and clothes millions of needy people
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<v Speaker 3>each year, as we fulfill the words of the prophets,
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<v Speaker 3>as almost every single day we bring more Jewish people
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<v Speaker 3>home to Israel from the four corners of the year Earth.
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<v Speaker 3>As we provide security and safety to the people of Israel,
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<v Speaker 3>being the watchman on the walls of Jerusalem, even as
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<v Speaker 3>rockets fly and enemies threaten us from every side, as
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<v Speaker 3>we bring together Christians and Jews in fellowship and in
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<v Speaker 3>prayer for one another. Here we are, my friends. We're
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<v Speaker 3>experiencing what over forty years ago people told my father
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<v Speaker 3>was a crazy dream. Yeah, here we are now. We're
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<v Speaker 3>witnessing every single one of those dreams coming to life
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<v Speaker 3>in bigger ways than any of us could have ever imagined. Today,
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<v Speaker 3>too many people have stopped dreaming. Do you feel that
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<v Speaker 3>disagreement and discouragement is everywhere? People have lost their desire
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<v Speaker 3>to dream. We've stopped believing in the impossible, and we've
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<v Speaker 3>stopped dreaming in the impossible. But God calls us to dream,
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<v Speaker 3>to picture and pray for a brighter future. To remember
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<v Speaker 3>that nothing is too big for God, because when we dream,
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<v Speaker 3>we declare our faith in God's ability to turn those
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<v Speaker 3>dreams into reality. We become his partners in creating a
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<v Speaker 3>better world, and God wants us exactly to be partnering
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<v Speaker 3>with him to do that. The story of Joseph naturally
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<v Speaker 3>leads us into the rich Biblical theme of dreaming. In
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<v Speaker 3>the Bible, dreams are more than figments of the subconscious.
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<v Speaker 3>They are divine whispers, holy nudges from the eternal, their
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<v Speaker 3>communication from God. God spoke to our father Abraham in
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<v Speaker 3>a dream. Dreams revealed the future to Jacob by showing
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<v Speaker 3>him a ladder that stretched to the heavens, And in
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<v Speaker 3>today's Bible story, God grants Joseph a glimpse of what's
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<v Speaker 3>to come in dreams of sheaves and stars. As we know,
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<v Speaker 3>Joseph's dreams aren't just for Joseph. Rather, they're a prophecy
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<v Speaker 3>for a nation. But they are a message for Joseph's family,
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<v Speaker 3>because here, like we've seen before, is the Bible's ever
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<v Speaker 3>present theme of sibling rivalry, of family strife. We have
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<v Speaker 3>been talking about this so much. Cain and Abel, Isaac
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<v Speaker 3>and Ishmael, Jacob and Esau all bound by blood, but
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<v Speaker 3>torn apart by their own humanness. But in the case
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<v Speaker 3>of Joseph and his brothers, have always wondered something. If
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<v Speaker 3>Joseph's brothers were already unhappy with the fact that he
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<v Speaker 3>was Joseph's favorite child, then why did Joseph share those
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<v Speaker 3>dreams of his own greatness with them? What was Joseph thinking?
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<v Speaker 3>Didn't he think that maybe it would make them jealous? Well,
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<v Speaker 3>some teachers throughout Jewish tradition excuse Joseph for this. They
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<v Speaker 3>say that he was just seventeen years old, and they
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<v Speaker 3>wonder how he could have known that sharing his dreams
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<v Speaker 3>would cause so many problems. Maybe he couldn't have known.
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<v Speaker 3>But some other Jewish commentary focuses on verse six. That's
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<v Speaker 3>where Joseph says, quote listen to this dream I had
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<v Speaker 3>end quote. These teachers explained that when Joseph told his
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<v Speaker 3>brothers to quote listen end quote, he actually meant, quote
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<v Speaker 3>listen to what these dreams mean. They mean that I
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<v Speaker 3>will be great, greater than all of you end quote.
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<v Speaker 3>And as we would expect, that only increased the hatred
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<v Speaker 3>and jealousy that Joseph's brothers felt. Towards him. Joseph's choice
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<v Speaker 3>can be a lesson for us all. We might not
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<v Speaker 3>have prophetic dreams like Joseph did, but we all have
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<v Speaker 3>dreams of success, of accomplishment, of achievement, and those kind
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<v Speaker 3>of dreams, my friends are wonderful. Do not let them die.
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<v Speaker 3>But we have to be careful about how we share
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<v Speaker 3>these dreams with others so as not to sound egotistical
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<v Speaker 3>or self important, so that other people don't get jealous
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<v Speaker 3>and try to knock us down, because one of the
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<v Speaker 3>worst things that we can do is to sow jealousy
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<v Speaker 3>among our family and friends. In fact, many of the
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<v Speaker 3>Jewish ages see that jealousy and hatred between Joseph and
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<v Speaker 3>his brothers as the beginning of the whole process that
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<v Speaker 3>ended in our Egyptian exile and slavery. They say that
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<v Speaker 3>it's this event of jealousy that directly led to the
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<v Speaker 3>Israelites going down to Egypt in exile and slavery. That's
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<v Speaker 3>a pretty big deal, and so we have a pretty
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<v Speaker 3>big lesson to learn here. We must always watch our
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<v Speaker 3>words and to use them to create love and friendship
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<v Speaker 3>instead of hatred and jealousy. Joseph's story his rise, his fall,
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<v Speaker 3>and his rise again echoes the highs and lows of
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<v Speaker 3>the Chosen people, and to speak on how these his
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<v Speaker 3>and lows continue into Christian tradition. Here's my good friend,
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<v Speaker 3>Bishop Paulinier.
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<v Speaker 7>Thank you so much. Well, here we are in this
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<v Speaker 7>Genesis chapter thirty seven, and it is so great of
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<v Speaker 7>a chapter, such a remarkable portion. I'm glad we're taking
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<v Speaker 7>a couple of conversations to more fully understand it, and
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<v Speaker 7>to be honest with you, for me to grasp it
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<v Speaker 7>more fully. Between this father Jacob and son Joseph, I
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<v Speaker 7>really need to look at the parents again, This Jacob
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<v Speaker 7>and Rachel. I'm gonna just go and put it out there.
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<v Speaker 7>This man Jacob, he had it bad for that woman Rachel.
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<v Speaker 7>He was entirely smitten by her beauty. It was obviously
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<v Speaker 7>love at first sight for him, and really for the
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<v Speaker 7>rest of his life, everything about her spoke to him.
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<v Speaker 7>He adored her. You and I am not surprised at
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<v Speaker 7>all that of all the children Jacob fathered, it was
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<v Speaker 7>that Joseph, Rachel's boy that meant most to him. In fact,
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<v Speaker 7>Genesis chapter thirty seven, verse three makes no secret of
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<v Speaker 7>this that Jacob loved Joseph more than all of his
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<v Speaker 7>other children. Now it tries to say that I love
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<v Speaker 7>this boy more because he was born to me in
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<v Speaker 7>my old age. Well maybe, but in reality, I think
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<v Speaker 7>you and I both know the reason he loved that
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<v Speaker 7>boy more most. It was because every time he looked
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<v Speaker 7>into his face, he saw that Rachel.
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<v Speaker 6>Hmm.
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<v Speaker 7>Remember some time ago you and I were talking about typologies.
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<v Speaker 7>It's when you find a motif or a theme, something
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<v Speaker 7>in particular in the Hebrew scriptures that plays out again
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<v Speaker 7>might even sing to us, to those who were Christian,
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<v Speaker 7>to be fulfilled. Even in the Christian scriptures. Well, we
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<v Speaker 7>see a lot of that in the life of Joseph.
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<v Speaker 7>The first thing we note about this Joseph is favor, favor.
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<v Speaker 7>Jacob loved him so much, we said, because of Rachel,
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<v Speaker 7>and Jacob even created this garment, this royal garment of favor,
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<v Speaker 7>long sleeved tonic for this Joseph, the favor, the favor.
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<v Speaker 7>But for Christians we also look at that and we
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<v Speaker 7>marvel at that. But for Christians we look into the
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<v Speaker 7>new Estimate and we think of Jesus. Jesus is a
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<v Speaker 7>type of Joseph. In fact, the Scriptures called Jesus the
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<v Speaker 7>First Born. We see that in the Book of Romans.
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<v Speaker 7>We see it when Paul writes in Colossians. We see
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<v Speaker 7>it in the Book of Hebrews. We see it in
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<v Speaker 7>John's letter of the Book of the Revelation of Jesus.
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<v Speaker 7>And for Christians, we think of John the Baptizer, who says,
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<v Speaker 7>from God the Father, this is my beloved son, in
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<v Speaker 7>whom I am well pleased. You get that feeling of
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<v Speaker 7>that Jacob Joseph dynamic. And even in the Book of
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<v Speaker 7>Hebrews it says that when Jesus had completed his work
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<v Speaker 7>of redemption on Earth, he returned to the bosom of
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<v Speaker 7>the Father and sat down at the right hand of
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<v Speaker 7>the Majesty on high. We get this, this favor, this motif,
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<v Speaker 7>this typeology, if you will. Now what's tragic is Jacob.
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<v Speaker 7>Jacob grew up in this twisted turmoil of sibling rivalry
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<v Speaker 7>that was really greatly created because of preferential treatment by
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<v Speaker 7>the parents. Isaac loved Esau and his rustic ways, and
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<v Speaker 7>Rebecca loved Jacob. But preferential treatment is going to create
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<v Speaker 7>a whole other level of drama between Jacob and Joseph
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<v Speaker 7>and Joseph's brothers. And it's tragic that Joseph was so
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<v Speaker 7>anointed by God, and the Lord would reveal himself to
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<v Speaker 7>Joseph through these extraordinary dreams, and Joseph could see more
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<v Speaker 7>with his eyes closed than he could when his eyes
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<v Speaker 7>were open. But what's what's so tragic to me is
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<v Speaker 7>his father, Joseph's father, Jacob. Jacob was a dreamer. Jacob
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<v Speaker 7>had placed his head on a hard place and the
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<v Speaker 7>heavens were opened, and he had seen the angelicos of
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<v Speaker 7>heaven ascending and descending. Jacob knew what it was to
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<v Speaker 7>encounter God supernaturally through dreams. And now that his son
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<v Speaker 7>Joseph is experiencing this, you would think that Joseph would
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<v Speaker 7>would would hear his father say to him, Joseph, come
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<v Speaker 7>over here, let me talk to you. Let me help
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<v Speaker 7>you with this, because you are encountering God in a
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<v Speaker 7>supernatural way, son, and if we don't deal with this correctly,
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<v Speaker 7>it can create all kinds of drama in your life
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<v Speaker 7>in this family. So let me tell you what happened
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<v Speaker 7>to me when I had a dream from that never
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<v Speaker 7>it has never happened. I'm going to stop here, and
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<v Speaker 7>this is what I'm going to pray in your life
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<v Speaker 7>as a father, as a mother, I'm praying that the
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<v Speaker 7>Lord is going to provide you. It's going to grant
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<v Speaker 7>you such discernment of what he God is doing in
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<v Speaker 7>your child's life that you'll be able to speak into
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<v Speaker 7>it and be able to say to your son, to
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<v Speaker 7>your daughter, Hey, look, I see what God's doing in
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<v Speaker 7>your life, and it's wonderful, it's marvelous, and I'm so grateful.
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<v Speaker 7>Let's talk about this, and let's pray about this so
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<v Speaker 7>that we move in humility, because Joseph, you're going to
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<v Speaker 7>find out that you can't tell everybody what God says
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<v Speaker 7>to you. Sometimes it's for the sake of intercession. Sometimes
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<v Speaker 7>it's for the sake so you can pray about it
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<v Speaker 7>and pray for your brothers. But the worst thing you
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<v Speaker 7>can do sometimes is to tell your brothers what God
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<v Speaker 7>God is speaking into your own heart. And I'm praying
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<v Speaker 7>for that you right now. Amen.
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<v Speaker 3>Like Joseph, Let's hold on to God's promises, his plans
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<v Speaker 3>often unfolding our deepest struggles, and his voice can come
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<v Speaker 3>in the quiet moments of sleep, whispering truths that are
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<v Speaker 3>waking mind can't always grasp, So keep dreaming, keep leaving,
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<v Speaker 3>keep holding on to the promises of God's blessings for
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<v Speaker 3>his chosen people. He has big plans specifically for you.
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<v Speaker 1>the executive producers of The Chosen People with the yele Eckstein,
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<v Speaker 1>edited by Alberto Avilla, narrated by Paul Coltofianu. Characters are
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<v Speaker 1>voiced by Jonathan Cotton, Aaron Salvato, Sarah Seltz, Mike Reagan,
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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Ringwold, Sylvia Zaradoc and the opening prayer is voiced
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<v Speaker 1>by John Moore. Music by Andrew Morgan Smith, written by
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<v Speaker 1>Bree Rosalie and Aaron Salvato. Special thanks to Bishop Paul Lanier,
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