How to Watch "The Super Mario Bros. Movie" (As A Christian)
How to Watch A Movie (As A Christian)April 21, 2023x
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How to Watch "The Super Mario Bros. Movie" (As A Christian)

It's a me, Mario!

The Mario movie is here after much anticipation and controversy about Chris Pratt's voice. How was it? We review the film and more on this episode, featuring our friend Javan Wallace.

On this episode, we talk about archetypes, whether saving princesses is outdated, and the Bible's love of symbolism.

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[00:00:00] Hey guys and welcome to another episode of How To Watch A Movie As A Christian, I'm Riley, I'm P. J, and I'm J.V. it today how to watch the Super Mario Bros movie as a Christian now This movie came out it's it's something

[00:00:40] I took all three of my kids two of my nephews and my dad My wife was there we were all there's like a whole row and man They loved it. You're dead. He did too

[00:00:55] Absolutely loved it. Yeah, doesn't he wear like a giant Mario hat he wears a rainbow Mario hat a lot We have like the Mario cap Like cap No, it's a baseball cap with a Mario face on it, but the cap itself is rainbow colors

[00:01:19] I'm we're just like oh, I don't know what's stored. Did you buy this out? What month of the year did you buy this? Anyways, yeah, so what are our thoughts super Mario Bros movie is the movie that exists

[00:01:35] I'd say other than despicable me. It's my favorite illumination studios movie what I'll still illumination studios do they've done sing They've done secret life of pets They've done PJ help me out. Oh, they did obviously all of the this big one me

[00:01:57] Who the sings said sicker life of pets? They've done other random ones and to be honest. I think that I hate all of them I like how I like the position for me. I didn't really care for minions

[00:02:12] Yeah, well, I just been no way gave me a profile picture on Facebook for like decades Yeah, shout out Shut up you do the thing but a Really really really enjoyed this movie. Yeah, it's one of the better ones Yeah, the animation has best has the reputation of

[00:02:34] like Lazy kids movies that like secret life of pets is the perfect example to me. It's like toy story But with animals and then they just Like it's not I would be a divider

[00:02:49] I do wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that this is not an original idea But it is something that has a vast amount of source material to draw from I'd be curious to see them do another

[00:03:04] Nintendo franchise movie like a metroiter a Kirby or something to see if they can You know hit that nail twice. I'd be so curious about a Zelda

[00:03:14] I'd be so skeptical how would be really interesting? I don't think they should but if you were to do it, how would you do it? Yeah, I would it should it would not it could not Was that Dr. Seuss book in the house with a mouse

[00:03:28] Be like a comedy though excuse me Guys, I drew more of that guy in there. You're that's more of a point for me better than I was expected Okay, if you do Mario then now you talk and I'm gonna try to draw Bowser from memory

[00:03:50] Give me the other page there you go be careful with my pen It's a it's a fountain. It's a little finicky fountain pen Yeah, I think I totally agree with what you guys are saying because illumination movies

[00:04:02] I took my kids to see secret life of pets in theaters You know I couldn't sit through it. I'm just like So yeah, they are known for that but this one would you say that it took its Heritage you know, it's history and it's

[00:04:22] Lore and it's source material and like pulled from it There's a lot of love Nintendo was really involved Shigaro Miyamoto the creator of Mario was an executive producer on him. Yep, it shows it does sure He I mean think of this dude Shigaro Miyamoto made he made up

[00:04:44] Mario Donkey Kong Zelda Metroid I think Kirby What is stacked guy that's crazy right? Yeah, so yeah, I love this movie too I did have some thoughts which we will get into but but yeah I thought I thought it was great so how do we watch

[00:05:08] Mario Bros movie as a Christian well wait first let's address maybe some of the more Kind of points that a lot of people have talked about how did Chris Pratt do

[00:05:17] I mean the general consensus is he was a lot better than they were expecting but he's not like blow your socks off Good right. Yeah, I think that they voice casted this movie

[00:05:31] So well accept for Chris Pratt really I think he did a fine job. Yeah, but to be honest What did it felt like it was just Chris Pratt trying to do an impression like a mild Italian impression

[00:05:44] Yeah, which I guess is fine and the very beginning of the movie spoilers They do a little trope of Luigi and Mario with their like really comical Italian voices. Oh, it's a me You know really high pitch and I thought oh, this is fun

[00:05:59] That's that's fun and then they explain how that's not their actual real voices And they were just putting on for the camera Which I guess if you're going to do what they did that's the way to do it but I didn't care for his not super Italian voice

[00:06:10] There's a fine line like with Chris Pratt. I think Obviously is the most controversial, but he also has it the hardest in a way because there's so much baggage with that voice and you can't do a Like for an hour

[00:06:26] He couldn't do that that would be a very line. Yeah, you know, he's all I just don't want to Proved As a beast I would truly hate that yeah exactly so it's almost like

[00:06:38] You know, maybe he did fine and that's probably the best option that he did and he did do it though at key moments like So there's you know There was a boy is that you could tell he got all of these little things that he did

[00:06:53] They were like family traits like you see his dad do it and you see like versions making similar things You think oh it's like a family thing which I think maybe we'll talk more about later

[00:07:03] But they do cast a really nice light on family. I love the tie between him and Luigi You know, they just really love each other. I kind of for whatever reason was I guess

[00:07:13] I don't know I thought they would maybe take it a different direction like maybe Luigi would be jealous of Mario or whatever Like they could have gone but they did it That's my favorite part of it. Yeah, yeah, and the bond between the brothers. Yeah

[00:07:26] I'm embarrassed that the end the climax of the movie or whatever like the bean boss fattle Fattle main boss battle Battle was great too. What a crazy battle. I That got me emotional when Luigi and Mario were like blocking the fire with a little right with the sewer

[00:07:47] Yeah, I think whatever you call that manhole Yeah, I mean I I agree that more of their dynamic would be more fun to watch Meaning that Luigi being in a cage the whole movie was kind of like oh man

[00:08:05] But you know that's the plot and that's the same reason why you like their dynamic is the same reason why that plot Generates a lot of like oh come on, you know an energy because you want them to get back together

[00:08:17] You know, it made me a bigger fan of Luigi too. Oh Have you played the Luigi's mansion game? I've thought it I didn't buy a Mario came out I bought a Luigi's bedroom. Yeah, I'm up there. Wait wait wait wait. Have you played Mario Odyssey?

[00:08:32] Yeah, of course I have I just got it Do it's the best Mario game. It's a really it's other than Mario three you which is my favorite But but Mario Odyssey is better Okay, because I played Super Mario Brothers 1 and 2 endlessly love it for NES

[00:08:48] Yeah, or I actually I played on my game boy advance Wow, you're so cool Yeah, I mean for me it was all about Mario three the music good Bowser Looks like a Dragon from Mulan Mooshu, Mooshu What looks kind of like donkey calm

[00:09:10] You know like house or costume So okay Mario Bros movie we all liked it. We felt like it kind of honored You know just a lot of love for the Mario games But as a Christian is there anything

[00:09:32] Is there anything to watching the Super Mario Bros movie as a Christian? So Jave whatever some of your thoughts Yeah, I think there's a couple I mean with any Piece of content there there's a potential

[00:09:47] Smidge a depth that you could hit on to and when you connected to the scriptures ball becomes a vast Ocean of depth Yeah, so my initial thoughts would be You have a very archetypal primal Kind of foundation within the Mario story. It's average Man

[00:10:13] And they really lean into the averageness right Mario if anything he's like less than average He can't below average Yeah, who anything yeah, doesn't quit exactly yeah average dude has to slay a dragon and that You know save the princess. That's a fairy tale. That's a Story that

[00:10:34] Has a lot of depth to it to very bad the motivation that's the story of the original games But here it's save his brother Yeah, there's a little save the princess in the kind of third beginning of the third act

[00:10:47] But that's quickly kind of removed. Yeah, and I think comparing The original video games plot and how The culture has evolved over the years to what the Mario movie is now I think that's really interesting to explore right so princess Peach being a ah

[00:11:07] Dance will industry help me Mario to like I'm a boss girl I'm I have ice flowers in my bouquet and I don't need Mario at all to Like exploring that and how that has progressed or how How um Bowser is like this evil You know

[00:11:27] Bad guy dragon the dragon and then in the movie he's an insel He is but I will say You haven't played Odyssey yet that is the plot of Mario Odyssey. Yeah, he wants to marry princess Peach Yeah, I actually really like that

[00:11:43] It's funny and they do all this not I mean obviously jack black took it and just made it Yeah, but in Odyssey that is it he wants to marry princess peach That's why he's kidnapped her and Mario is simply just trying to rescue her and by the end

[00:12:01] Mario kind of thinks He's gonna marry princess Peach and princess Peach like I don't want either of you I see leaves. I love it It really is awesome I think that like yeah, you're right, Javin like the original thing is so

[00:12:18] Archetypal it's St. George the dragon slayer which is like a classic myth from medieval times Which is St. George is one of the Catholic saints. I think you pray to him when you want

[00:12:30] Dragon dragons when you need a dragon slayer. No, it's when you need protection. I believe and but St. George is rumored to have slated dragon and You know go go go go go any of the paintings of him

[00:12:47] But they say that he killed a dragon and then rescued the princess that's the actual story and he's an actual saint Right, so this is not some made up thing And but it kind of plays on you know we we talk about archetypes and stuff like that

[00:13:01] I think as a Christian it is really useful if not necessary to see these hints Of archetypal stories and what we mean by that is just like Universal stories that have been going on forever and ever and ever and ever and even Bowser being an

[00:13:19] Insel is appropriate because what it's saying is hey This is a dragon-ish thing to do. Yeah, you know the dragon the serpent the Leviathan in in the book of Job or the serpent snake in Genesis 3 and Revelation 12

[00:13:38] That's archetypal right Satan is represented as a snake or a dragon type figure And so it is the goal of the hero to defeat this and then the kind of virginal damsel in distress

[00:13:51] It's not a comment on femininity. It's a comment on need and the need to be rescued and the kind of the ultimate symbolic archetypal That needs to be Valiently conquered and rescued so I think that

[00:14:08] It's funny how in our modern culture we've lost our appetite for archetype. I think we've lost our appetite for symbolism to say man conquer's beast rescue's girl It's like it's not a comment on this isn't dating advice It's symbolism right right the good guy

[00:14:29] Always being good the bad guy always being bad what you're seeing nowadays is it's like it's more complex More complex and it is more complex it is but the stories are purposefully simple because they simplify the complexity of life and I think honestly

[00:14:47] I think the fact that this movie has now made a billion dollars I don't know it's like one of those success stories of movies where you go guys get back to The simple stories they clearly do something for people because it always comes down to

[00:15:05] That's one thing which is good versus evil and good triumphs evil And we eat it And you can put all kinds of whatever you want on it. You can make it Mario you can make it Lourvings you can make it jetties whatever it is

[00:15:20] It follows that same recipe and those are all of our favorite stories good triumphing over evil Yeah for sure what did you think of the complexity that they did add to Mario he's got daddy issues like he kind of wants to please his father who is like this

[00:15:40] Battalion guy You know it's so funny I heard this I actually don't know if it's true but I'm pretty sure it is that Mario Brothers is not the name of the game. That's not what it was called that's the English name of the game

[00:15:55] And what happened is the eight bit graphics look like The little guys wearing overalls or something and so they yeah, let's call him Mario and Luigi and let's make them into Italian Those tubes well, what if they're plumbers?

[00:16:12] Yeah, those are pipes right no, and so the lore about him being this Italian plumper kind of developed after the game was created on accident Mario's mustache the developers were like how do we distinct his nose from his mouth?

[00:16:27] It's just a pixel let's just put a mustache on him. Yeah, because that's the limitations they had Graphic wise now we don't have that limitation at all now and you go to like Mario 64 and he's Like it's like insane It's like I just am wondering I've backflips

[00:16:49] Where are the like Italian protest just in the streets yeah, we are more than this But would you think of the complexity? You know they added like a big theme donkey calling has the same struggle with his dad

[00:17:04] Which by the way I didn't know cranky Kong was his dad. I never knew that Who's diddy Kong in this such is he just a fan is he a little brother? I think just another Mike donkey Kong's little brother, right?

[00:17:18] I'd hope so it's a family. Kong is the last day That's weird because I can't come 64. I'm pretty sure that there are siblings there's Donkey Kong, Daddy Kong, Linky Kong Chunky Kong and then the girl Daisy Dixie Kong, yeah, she was my favorite because she could

[00:17:39] Which does with the blonde hair yeah super super fun What was the question oh the complexity of Father issues cranky Kong yeah, so they they did do a bit where they Super amplified his Italianness and then they quickly show you that they're not actually that they are real

[00:18:02] Just normal Brooklyn brothers They own this plumbing service that is failing and everyone thinks that their losers but for some reason They just won't quit because Mario's not a quitter. That's like I think one of the main themes

[00:18:15] If not the main thing is he will not quit good or bad he just won't Great and Then you see that they go back home their family is

[00:18:27] Loving but also nagging at the same time that they are just these loser plumbers and they should just do something else You know why don't you do something with your life kind of thing? I'm a I laughed out loud When

[00:18:41] One of the answer something is serving a plate of food and the guy she serviced to is like oh It's the Mario Brothers and she goes like this goes what I do I don't know if it is the Italianness is like Joey from friends

[00:19:02] Man, it may be laugh. I don't know why but good on them Anyway all that to say is that it shows you that he does have some Family issues and that he feels like a failure in their eyes

[00:19:14] It's not super expanded upon right it's not being you're not banged over the head with it But it's kind of just enough of like a push on them to get him and Luigi to try and prove themselves and totally

[00:19:26] Band together. That's how white took I took it as their motivation To actually keep going is there family is they wanted not to just to prove them wrong But to prove that they could do it

[00:19:37] And I thought that was sweet so I wouldn't necessarily even say daddy issues, but maybe more so that he just wanted to make his dad proud Because it didn't seem like they had like a bad or toxic relationship or anything how about donkey Kong same thing like

[00:19:51] I'm not just a joke. I'm not just a guy who smashes I'm not just a guy who like I don't this horrible stuff at all get impression Flex is pegs

[00:20:11] Man that's a weird character to go from the peg flexing I think that there's a funny thing in adapting Original source material that writers do and here they did. I think pretty good But it's a similar technique where they just go what is donkey Kong known for

[00:20:29] Let's make him wish that he was more than that like if you saw the series the the velma cartoon No, but I heard from Scooby Doo Jim. I'm not even kidding worse than the new Pinocchio movie

[00:20:45] It's so bad, but the writers clearly were going okay, what's velma known for? Let's make her whole motivation she wants to be known for more than that and it's There it feels so

[00:20:57] Easy but here it kind of works actually it makes me laugh and works because they parallel his art two marios Were they kind of come to at the same time It's also not the main motivation right while I would true

[00:21:13] What's it called? Velma? Velma yeah that that seems to be the main thing this is like a very Man off handed almost side quest yeah to me. I felt like a thing of status where even the lowest of a low and the highest of the highs

[00:21:29] Sort of deal with the same emotions Donkey Kong is this like Prince of jungle kingdom or whatever and Mario's oh, yeah this little humble Italian Plumber from Brooklyn, but they deal with the same emotion sure what is Princess Peach's motivation?

[00:21:43] I mean she I and we know she wants to save the mushroom kingdom Bowser's on his way to take over it. He wants to marry her Which we find out later, but

[00:21:53] Peach is Peach is Peach is Peach is Peach is Peach is Peach is Peach is I know that I'd laughed It just this movie throughout made me laugh I really really loved it But what I think my just a couple things um

[00:22:09] With Princess Peach she had that motivation to save her kingdom. I don't know what much else about her you know what I mean I think she was the weakest character in that Like she had a bit of an urge to show how

[00:22:23] Oh, that's true. Yeah, how what she's from the human kingdom That was interesting but it's not really a weakness yeah. It's not a weakness but it made my wife emotional. Oh She watched it Maybe maybe then

[00:22:37] There is something then when she runs in amario. It's like oh you're like me Like who am I kind of a think some identity kind of thing? Yeah, that was kind of interesting. That is interesting But yeah, it's like I Did have the thought and then quickly just

[00:22:52] Left it alone because I'm watching super Mario both as movie but it's like why does Peach actually even need Mario? She does that training course thing. She's like far better than he ever could good to see you

[00:23:04] Why don't you come train with me? It was very like oh yeah, it was obviously just like the vehicle to get Mario to do Mario things very quick but

[00:23:14] I mean again, it's like you're watching super Mario brothers movie. You have to sort of just let that happen otherwise I know what you want to three hour Mario movie. I think that we we just talked about this with John Wick for

[00:23:26] That it's not that movies have to have As much depth as the godfather or something or as much complexity is succession Which I'm watching right now it's incredible

[00:23:39] But but it's that it has to be internally logical like within itself you have to accept it and I do think like It kind of bothered me with princess Peach was like oh hey why don't you come train with me? I don't know I just felt easy

[00:23:54] Came out of the blue but then like Peach is saying it's like okay, I don't know all right well whatever you know It also bring out like what's it like in the video game

[00:24:03] It's literally yeah, there's nothing yeah character shows up to character and then they do the thing But as a movie that doesn't work we need more than Just pixels Moving there needs to be like

[00:24:17] Motivation there which is I think my second comment on the movie was I felt weird Knowing that Mario has like family Proved to my dad Motivation I was like I've known this dude my whole life That was the fun thing I was I've never known this about him

[00:24:37] I was like finding out about your friend no way you're going through this why didn't you tell me I was talking to Ben about this is like I really really enjoyed it but I can't get over how human they made Mario it just feels

[00:24:53] Like you're saying like really weird it's like it's not the Mario that I know but it's the Mario that I can Appreciate I didn't mind it, but it is I wish you told me early or not a relationship That's as secretly as motorbike away every game

[00:25:10] And Mario parties just try to prove to his dad the day Mario Sunshine is cleaning the island of all the the mud just like wish my dad could say me Yeah Mario tennis Mario Cardia

[00:25:28] Mario golf all great games all great games and so I think this is the Kind of the crux of the matter with video game movies is video games are An empty shell like a vehicle for the player

[00:25:44] To go I'm gonna go on an adventure as this average dude right gonna conquer a dragon rescue a girl It's like a fun archetypal adventure that I go on with through him, you know at your own pace and so there's no

[00:25:58] Motivation and a lot of video games have no motivation and that's fine right certain ones like the last of us or Certain ones do and they pull it off But for the most part the character is purposefully bland

[00:26:16] Yeah, right so that you the player just kind of immediately connect to him through not through learning his background But through just playing as it's all in the puzzle. Same with the link that's common thing link yeah

[00:26:28] Cuz he's little dialogue what is what does link feel about anything? No idea Right yeah And he doesn't even talk And and that's like become a tradition almost if they ruin it and if they like do something different

[00:26:45] I'm gonna be mad. Yeah, because it feels you know most feels Like sacred in a way so when they Turn it into a movie they have to add motivation you can't remove without any motivation that would be

[00:27:00] That would not play right? So yeah, do you think that this one did it better than others? Honestly, I think it is because the human is him is what made it work because we Otherwise that's so other world-lies like how do you relate to this character? There's like

[00:27:18] None of us are that but they tied him so Tiedly to his family and wanting to make them proud and you know saving his brother Protecting that bond they have where you like you can't attach yourself to that motivation

[00:27:32] You know, so I think if they didn't have that human element it would have been really hard to connect and relate to that way So I think it actually was a good thing as weird as it was

[00:27:44] Yeah for me it worked with pairing Donkey Kong and Mario together I was really weirded out by how quickly peach became friends with him. I was like what the heck But with Donkey Kong and Mario it's like oh our heart dads are disappointed us

[00:28:00] We can bond over that that felt more Irnt to me than peaches, but it is kind of just weird. I don't know I if I were to write it which I'm not a writer

[00:28:11] So it was also only an hour and like 20 minutes long very so short, which I appreciated Being there with my kids it felt like the perfect length yeah the fact that they managed to get everything in there that they did With all of the

[00:28:25] Incredible I was a fan service I did was very impressive to me obviously there are holes in Mario Pipes you can my favorite what was your favorite fan mix? What were your favorite fan service moments? I'll go first I'll go first my favorite was the rainbow road jump

[00:28:47] From this level to that See they had the big ones like that and then they have the little ones like where this the big bomb guys sits down

[00:28:55] And bumps the green shell and it just doesn't stop bouncing until he stops it just like green shells or even the blue shell on rainbow road Yeah, that was great or it's all like Mario car

[00:29:05] When they were adding the jungle kingdom and the dude throws a banana peel and slip Before that happened I literally said out loud. I really hope they throw a banana pill and then they did it It's like they set up this scene

[00:29:19] Knowing exactly what you want and then they provided it I thought it was great. Yeah visually it's it's it's beautiful Super rich so fun I think for me is the Mario cart building You know when it's like a slot machine Oh right Like three options

[00:29:40] She falls out of control Good what were some good just kind of approaching this film as a Christian and it is funny that we're even talking about this

[00:29:50] We know that we know that but are there any kind of maybe layers to it or ways of thinking about it that I don't know we have thoughts on I Think layers of Again Exploring how modern culture has shifted Mario's story compared to

[00:30:13] Back in the day you can clearly see that specifically with Princess Peach now she's She's boss girl you can tell there's modern feminism at play there of like she doesn't need a man

[00:30:24] She doesn't need a hero yeah, I mean I think that in general it well, you know I will say though Mario has always explored the relationship between him and Luigi especially in Luigi's mansion

[00:30:38] True. It almost felt like the main plot was more derived from Luigi's mansion because he's trying to rescue Luigi In Luigi's mansion Luigi's trying to look for Mario But it's that similar thing. It's like a brother Lee

[00:30:51] Love a brother Lee rescue which they've already explored pretty well and then Princess Peach is oh I mean like she's a great character in smash True, she is a boss girl in smash But yeah, it's it is interesting. I think

[00:31:06] Mario I've read articles like criticizing the old Mario For its portrayal of the helpless woman which I understand the criticism. I do But I just think that if you're making a movie aimed at girls

[00:31:25] It's okay to portray a man in need of saving. I think that's okay girls Should see it in themselves like especially if they're gonna get married or if that's like a Desire if they want to be in any sort of relationship or with friendship or anything

[00:31:42] It's okay to go. I can heroically save this person Classic example is beauty in the beast beauty in the beast is the reverse archetype It's about the beastly man who out of selfishness tyranny and oppression has become a

[00:31:59] Animal who needs to be rescued by a beautiful person like a human specifically She's the rescue her right and I think that's fine. It's okay to do that in Mario is a man And it's okay to tell men hey Rescueing women is good. That's fine

[00:32:18] But at the same time like I said earlier our culture has lost its Stemic for symbolism or what we call in theology we call it recapitulation Which is the doctrine that Christ represents humanity So when we look at Christ he is the new Adam

[00:32:40] The image of the invisible god the ultimate human and we look at him to go okay Represents us before God Jesus that's our kind of collective prayer And stories do that all the time the hero represents us

[00:32:55] William Wallace represents Scotland right or Joan of Arc represents the people of what is it France or England or some so My but my point is we've kind of lost that as a culture we don't like the idea that this archetypal thing

[00:33:13] Happens to this character. We've lost our stomach for it. We go oh, you know women shouldn't be portrayed that way It's like it's not dating advice do you think it comes down to People thinking that they don't need a savior because they can just save themselves

[00:33:31] I think that's a huge part of it because Specifically in the feminist idea today is the idea I don't need saving which is understandable Part of our especially our cultures doctrine is that you can rescue yourself You can provide for yourself part of that is very empowering

[00:33:53] But it's also very isolating It's very lonely and to to to to have this idea that I don't need a savior is actually lonely It's a lonely feeling it's actually for the most part untrue

[00:34:07] You do need a savior sure spiritually and with Christ but also in life like where would I be without my wife? I don't know beauty in the beast. I am the beast 100% just There's something strange And almost time like I get it. It's so true

[00:34:29] I need to be rescued by my wife and in the same way I hopefully have done similar things for her and us coming together has been a beautiful thing we need each other

[00:34:39] And I I don't know if the go at alone thing which is a very American ideal Is a really at the end of the day? I don't know if that's like a super comforting thing Yeah, I think I agree. I think that it could be very isolating

[00:34:56] I mean, I feel the same way I because I can relate to that especially in my early years I thought I don't need people. I can do this or handle this on my own Through all different traumas I've been through I thought I can just do this

[00:35:09] I don't need people they're just gonna think I'm weak if I don't say anything I can remain strong or at least appear that way But then come to find that's not the case

[00:35:19] I need a savior. I need my friends. I need my wife. I need my daughter. You know they do continually like save me Yeah, okay That's okay. That's okay to need to be saved But did I have a problem with the

[00:35:35] Telling that really I just wondered what her motivations were yeah, that was it I thought she didn't even need to be in the movie but obviously she was in the movie Yeah, it's almost like the plot of saving the mushroom kingdom

[00:35:50] Was that wasn't Mario's motivation? He's trying to save Luigi and so she kind of recruits him to save the mushroom kingdom We don't really know why did she think he would help But maybe it all comes down to hate this guys a human just like me

[00:36:08] Maybe this was meant to happen. I don't know. I just thought that was the weakest part but yeah, I think the The conversation around why is Mario and enduring thing similar to Zelda?

[00:36:19] It's a very very archetypal story and in the Bible Paul says in Romans 16 that God will soon Crush the serpent under your feet and there he's saying that the collective victory of

[00:36:34] Humanity will soon come to pass in Christ and that is dramatized in Revelation 12 when the dragon is thrown down I mean, it's this classic stuff and it's just so epic and you just sort of like I love this is so awesome

[00:36:50] And then when you watch Mario or play Mario you just I think I do believe there's a hint of it deep Been here deep in your book and going yeah, this has been how to watch the Super Mario Bros. Is it super

[00:37:06] Super Mario Bros movie? Yeah, yeah, bro's not brothers It's BROS period God for you and a pronounce that this has been how to watch a movie as a Christian We're Pacific Parable and we'll see you at church