How can preachers help people hear Scripture rather than merely collect information about it?
In this conversation, Mike speaks with New Testament scholar David B. Capes about conversational preaching, the public reading of Scripture, recovering the Old Testament and its language of lament, and recognising the scriptural world that shaped the New Testament writers.
David also explains how Matthew Through Old Testament Eyes helps readers notice Matthew’s use of Israel’s Scriptures. Along the way, he reflects on Christ-centred preaching, faithful listening, friendship across religious differences, and the work of the Lanier Theological Library.
IN THIS EPISODE
David’s first sermon at twelve years old and his early sense of calling
Why effective preaching should sound like a meaningful conversation
The difference between saying something and helping people learn it
Recovering the public reading of Scripture in the church
Why Christians need the Old Testament’s language of lament
How the New Testament writers read and reused Israel’s Scriptures
Reading Matthew with greater sensitivity to its first-century Jewish setting
Christ-centred preaching without forcing Jesus artificially into every isolated verse
Learning to listen carefully to people with whom we disagree
The libraries, lectures, podcasts and study opportunities offered by the Lanier Theological Library
RESOURCES MENTIONED
Matthew Through Old Testament Eyes by David B. Capes (Kregel Academic)
https://www.kregel.com/bible-commentaries/matthew-through-old-testament-eyes/
Devote Yourself to the Public Reading of Scripture by Jeffrey D. Arthurs (Kregel Academic)
https://www.kregel.com/jeffrey-d-arthurs/devote-yourself-to-the-public-reading-of-scripture/
Paul’s Use of the Old Testament by E. Earle Ellis (Wipf and Stock)
https://wipfandstock.com/9781592441945/pauls-use-of-the-old-testament/
TED Talks: The Official TED Guide to Public Speaking by Chris Anderson
(This is the public-speaking book Mike recalled, although its title was not stated during the interview.)
https://www.ted.com/read/ted-talks-the-official-ted-guide-to-public-speaking/
OTHER BOOKS BY DAVID B. CAPES
The Divine Christ: Paul, the Lord Jesus, and the Scriptures of Israel (Baker Academic)
https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9780801097867_the-divine-christ
Old Testament Yahweh Texts in Paul’s Christology (Baylor University Press)
https://www.baylorpress.com/9781481307918/old-testament-yahweh-texts-in-pauls-christology/
Rediscovering Paul: An Introduction to His World, Letters and Theology, second edition (IVP Academic)
https://ivpress.com/rediscovering-paul
Slow to Judge: Sometimes It’s OK to Listen (Thomas Nelson)
https://www.thomasnelson.com/author/4083/david-capes/
ADDITIONAL WORKS REFERENCED
Books by Rabbi Stuart Federow
Federow’s writing was discussed, but no individual title was named during the interview.
https://hebrewjumpstart.com/books
LISTEN AND EXPLORE
Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center — Houston, USA
https://lanierlibraryandlearningcenter.org/
Lanier Theological Library — Yarnton Manor, Oxford, UK
https://yarntonmanor.org/theological-library/
Lanier sabbatical opportunities in Houston
https://lanierlibraryandlearningcenter.org/sabbaticals-2/
Research and writing visits at Yarnton Manor
https://yarntonmanor.org/apply-to-visit/research-writing/
The Stone Chapel Podcast
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-stone-chapel-podcast/id1537425950
Exegetically Speaking — Wheaton College
https://www.wheaton.edu/listen/exegetically-speaking-podcast
A Show of Faith
David B. Capes’s website
Calvary Chapel Cooperative
https://calvarychapelcooperative.com/
CONNECT WITH DAVID
Email: david.capes@lanierlibrary.org
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