Breaking the Fast Food Bible Study Habit
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Breaking the Fast Food Bible Study Habit

In a culture addicted to fast food and instant gratification, are we falling into the same trap when it comes to sermons? In this episode, Pastor Mike Chaddick draws a fascinating parallel between the shallow nourishment of fast food and the modern demand for quick, easy-to-digest preaching. Recorded live at the Expositors Collective preacher training event in Indianapolis, Indiana, Mike challenges us to dig deeper into Scripture using the inductive Bible study method—a three-step process of observation, interpretation, and application.


Discover how studying the Bible through the lens of language, grammar, historical context, and genre can lead to sermons that nourish and transform. Mike also highlights the value of consulting multiple Bible translations and offers practical tips for interpreting Scripture through a gospel-centered, doctrinally sound lens. Whether you’re a seasoned expositor or just starting out, this session is packed with insights to help you teach the Word with depth, clarity, and life-changing impact.


Don’t miss this thought-provoking episode as we continue to share sessions from our October 2023 event in the Hoosier State.


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About Mike Chaddick


Pastor Mike Chaddick is the senior pastor of Image Church in San Juan Capistrano, CA, and a regular contributor to the live radio show *Pastors Perspective* on KWAVE 107.9FM. Raised as a pastor’s kid in the Calvary Chapel movement, Mike had a powerful conversion experience after years of drifting from his faith. With ministerial degrees from Vanguard University, Veritas Evangelical Seminary, and Fuller Theological Seminary, he brings a wealth of theological training and practical experience to his ministry. Mike is currently pursuing a Doctor of Ministry degree and is passionate about writing, fitness, and spending time with his wife, Beth, and their six children.


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[00:00:00] And I would encourage you, be equally curious about the Bible. What's going on? Ask it questions. Ask who, what, where, when, why, how.

[00:00:13] And by the way, I actually find for me personally, in a way this gets harder the longer you've been teaching the Bible.

[00:00:19] So if anyone's new and you feel intimidated, oh, I don't know as much as so-and-so, honestly, you actually have advantages, believe me.

[00:00:25] Because part of the problem with knowing the Bible really well and teaching it a million times, you begin to assume people know what you know.

[00:00:33] But if you're going to preach the word to people who don't know the word, that's exactly what you can't be doing.

[00:00:39] So ironically, if you're new to teaching the Bible, if you're new, you know, that actually could be an advantage for you.

[00:00:46] Hey, welcome to the Expositors Collective Podcast, episode 356.

[00:00:51] I'm your host, Mike Neglia, and the voice that you heard is our guest.

[00:00:57] This is Mike Chaddick, talking to us about the inductive Bible study method.

[00:01:03] Well, it should be said that Expositors Collective, we're actually so much more than a podcast.

[00:01:10] We are an equipping ministry that travels around over the past six years,

[00:01:17] and we've been honored to travel and to put on preacher training events across the U.S. and Europe,

[00:01:25] and recently in the continent of Africa.

[00:01:28] Today's episode was recorded back in October 23 in Indianapolis, Indiana,

[00:01:35] during an event that we put on there.

[00:01:38] Over the next couple of weeks, you're going to be hearing more of the main sessions

[00:01:44] from our time together in the Hoosier State.

[00:01:47] So you'll hear more coming up.

[00:01:50] But as I mentioned, this episode, we're joined by Pastor Mike Chaddick

[00:01:55] of Image Church in San Juan Capistrano, California.

[00:02:01] Mike draws from his extensive ministry experience and theological training

[00:02:07] to challenge the fast food approach to sermon prep and delivery

[00:02:13] in favor of like the far more nutrient-dense and nourishing method

[00:02:20] of the inductive Bible study method.

[00:02:22] He talks through the steps of observation, interpretation, and application.

[00:02:27] Some of you may have heard of those terms and steps before.

[00:02:32] This could be an introduction for others,

[00:02:34] but it's something that is worth paying attention to.

[00:02:37] And internalizing in your preparation process.

[00:02:41] Towards the middle, he talks about the concentric circles of interpretation

[00:02:46] that I loved.

[00:02:49] And hopefully you'll be taking notes

[00:02:52] as he speaks about those concentric circles of interpretation.

[00:02:57] All right, let's dive in.

[00:03:08] A number of you probably work multiple jobs, am I right?

[00:03:11] I know myself, married, six kids.

[00:03:15] I'm in school again.

[00:03:17] And I'm bivocational.

[00:03:19] I'm actually a certified personal trainer and nutrition coach

[00:03:22] with the National Academy of Sports Medicine.

[00:03:25] And when I first take on a client,

[00:03:27] and my favorite clients to work with are out-of-shape middle-aged men.

[00:03:31] And you might ask, yeah, there we go, there we go.

[00:03:33] And you might ask why?

[00:03:35] Because I was an out-of-shape middle-aged man.

[00:03:37] So I readily identify with them.

[00:03:39] And you might think the first thing I say when I begin with a client is,

[00:03:44] here's the dumbbell, start working out, do this and that.

[00:03:47] Actually, no.

[00:03:48] One of the first things I do is try to help them understand

[00:03:51] how they got where they are.

[00:03:54] Because if you don't understand how it happened,

[00:03:57] you can't change how you think,

[00:03:59] how you look at the world, at food, your body, and health.

[00:04:03] So one of the first things I say to them is,

[00:04:06] we live in a fast food culture.

[00:04:09] And what that means is,

[00:04:12] much, perhaps most, of the food available to modern Americans today

[00:04:16] is calorically dense, but nutritionally deficient.

[00:04:22] Put another way, it is very tasty and very bad.

[00:04:27] Which conversely, there's an opposite effect, isn't there?

[00:04:31] That conversely means healthy food tastes bad to people.

[00:04:38] Healthy food begins to taste bad.

[00:04:41] I want to begin my inductive Bible study session this afternoon

[00:04:45] by suggesting that we, you and I, in America today,

[00:04:49] are likewise living in an increasingly fast food sermon Bible study culture.

[00:04:56] Which means most people in America have been trained to expect

[00:05:00] immediately gratifying sermons,

[00:05:03] often to the neglect of true spiritual nourishment.

[00:05:08] And while we do want the spiritual meals

[00:05:13] we are preparing for our small groups and our churches

[00:05:15] to be as desirable to the palate as possible,

[00:05:18] so it's not holy to make terrible, bland-tasting sermons, right?

[00:05:23] We want it to be palatable, and part of the training you'll receive

[00:05:26] will help you to do that.

[00:05:28] But my chief concern here, in the next 15 minutes or so,

[00:05:32] is to help you better prepare nutritious, spiritual meals

[00:05:37] to feed to your small groups and congregations.

[00:05:42] Now, we're going to do this in three steps.

[00:05:44] These are standard fare.

[00:05:46] I didn't invent them.

[00:05:47] What I have to offer is simply some subcategories

[00:05:52] that might be unique.

[00:05:54] They might be new to you.

[00:05:56] Some of them, maybe simply the order,

[00:05:58] the arrangement of it might be different.

[00:05:59] And so I want you to pay attention.

[00:06:01] Here's the three steps.

[00:06:03] I'll just state them up front.

[00:06:04] For your notes, you'll want to leave some space under these steps

[00:06:07] and kind of jot down whatever comes to you.

[00:06:10] And again, no pressure.

[00:06:11] Nobody feel bad if you're busy.

[00:06:12] And you're like, oh my gosh,

[00:06:13] Bible studies way more time than I have.

[00:06:15] Or please, this is depressing.

[00:06:17] Again, this is simply kind of,

[00:06:18] even if you're not a Top Gun fan,

[00:06:20] this is the maverick flyby, right?

[00:06:21] Like I'm just buzzing the tower.

[00:06:23] Jot down what stands out to you.

[00:06:25] So here's what we're going to do.

[00:06:27] Three steps.

[00:06:28] Number one, observation,

[00:06:30] which means what does the text say?

[00:06:35] Number two, interpretation.

[00:06:38] What does the text mean?

[00:06:40] And number three, application.

[00:06:44] How should we respond to the text?

[00:06:48] So number one, observation.

[00:06:50] What does the text say?

[00:06:52] I like to begin with language and grammar.

[00:06:56] That should seem fairly straightforward,

[00:06:59] but remarkably, it isn't.

[00:07:00] And in case you think I'm immediately talking about

[00:07:03] original languages, Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek,

[00:07:05] not necessarily.

[00:07:07] If you have facility in the original languages,

[00:07:09] that's wonderful.

[00:07:11] But I'm even speaking to a English-only speaking audience.

[00:07:16] One of the ways you can kind of get at

[00:07:18] the background of the original

[00:07:20] is to utilize multiple translations

[00:07:23] in your preparation.

[00:07:25] Now, probably most of you have kind of

[00:07:26] a standard translation that you preach from,

[00:07:28] but I know we think about the context we live in.

[00:07:31] Pretty much, I mean, I guess it might be different

[00:07:32] in the Midwest, I don't know.

[00:07:34] But out in Southern California,

[00:07:36] when you come to a small group Bible study,

[00:07:37] if we sit around with 10 men and we say,

[00:07:40] hey, read John chapter three,

[00:07:42] I'm gonna get like NLT, message, NIV, ESV,

[00:07:47] NKJV, KJV only.

[00:07:48] You know, it's like we'll go around, right?

[00:07:51] And everybody, so it's kind of like,

[00:07:53] we're gonna have to kind of get at

[00:07:55] the meaning behind all of these

[00:07:57] in order for people to understand

[00:07:59] it's the one God speaking through the one text.

[00:08:03] Now, I went to an Assemblies of God

[00:08:05] undergraduate school, really fun.

[00:08:07] They were actually scholarly,

[00:08:09] but with a charismatic Pentecostal vein.

[00:08:12] And one of the things our sermon preparation course did

[00:08:16] was taught us to use at least,

[00:08:19] I know this sounds a little laborious,

[00:08:21] at least 10 different English translations

[00:08:23] in your preparation, at least 10.

[00:08:24] It was just a rule.

[00:08:25] You can make it three, you can make it five,

[00:08:28] you can do 15 if you wanna be an overachiever.

[00:08:30] But here was the goal.

[00:08:32] Read the text that you're gonna be teaching on

[00:08:34] in those 10 translations

[00:08:37] and note any significant differences.

[00:08:41] Note any, if there's anything,

[00:08:42] you don't, you know what I mean?

[00:08:43] If there's anything where it's not just worded differently,

[00:08:46] it's saying something different.

[00:08:48] Those are two different things.

[00:08:49] If you notice, hey, wait a minute,

[00:08:52] this could actually, like,

[00:08:53] you might live differently

[00:08:54] if this translation's right and that one's not.

[00:08:56] You might believe something differently

[00:08:58] if this translation's right or this one's not.

[00:09:00] And you'll wanna note those

[00:09:01] and make sure you go to text critical commentaries

[00:09:05] that are gonna give you insight

[00:09:07] what is going on there.

[00:09:09] Why is that the case?

[00:09:11] So I like to begin with language and grammar.

[00:09:15] And again, let me emphasize this

[00:09:17] because if you're a good preacher,

[00:09:19] you've probably been taught,

[00:09:20] don't ever bring up Hebrew and Greek

[00:09:21] and you alienate people.

[00:09:23] That's probably true.

[00:09:24] So here's why I'm saying this.

[00:09:26] I'm saying this so that you don't say in English

[00:09:29] what is not supported by the original.

[00:09:32] Has nothing to do with making yourself sound smart

[00:09:35] using Greek and Hebrew.

[00:09:36] No, quite the opposite.

[00:09:37] You're making sure you're getting back to the original

[00:09:40] in order you don't make a claim

[00:09:42] that the original doesn't support, right?

[00:09:46] Because ultimately, where is the authority?

[00:09:48] It's in God.

[00:09:50] And it's in God's voice, not our own.

[00:09:52] So we wanna get back to that voice as much as we can.

[00:09:55] Language, grammar.

[00:09:56] Secondly, genre.

[00:09:58] It's important.

[00:09:59] You could go to history and culture next.

[00:10:01] I tend to prefer a genre

[00:10:03] because what I actually don't have in front of me

[00:10:05] is the history and cultural background.

[00:10:07] I have the language of the text.

[00:10:09] That's literally what I have.

[00:10:10] It's the remnant of the past in front of me

[00:10:13] that God has inspired.

[00:10:14] And so I wanna look at the genre.

[00:10:17] So the standard genres,

[00:10:19] and I'm sure you're all familiar,

[00:10:21] and even if you're not,

[00:10:21] there's law, history, wisdom, poetry,

[00:10:26] narrative, epistles, prophecy,

[00:10:29] and apocalyptic literature.

[00:10:31] And it makes a difference what it is.

[00:10:34] It can make a tremendous difference.

[00:10:36] I know, I probably can't count how many parents,

[00:10:39] Christian parents, loving their kids,

[00:10:42] praying for their kids,

[00:10:44] teaching them the Bible,

[00:10:45] putting them in Christian school,

[00:10:46] taking their devices away from them at night

[00:10:48] so they can't look at bad stuff.

[00:10:50] And then they think that

[00:10:52] because someone told them

[00:10:53] a proverb is the same thing as a prophecy,

[00:10:56] if you raise your children, right?

[00:10:59] If you train up your child

[00:11:00] in the way you should go when they're old,

[00:11:01] oh, it's a prophecy.

[00:11:04] It's a prophecy.

[00:11:05] If I just do everything right,

[00:11:07] God will force them to be saved.

[00:11:11] But wait a minute.

[00:11:12] If I pay attention to genre,

[00:11:13] what do I say about that claim?

[00:11:16] Is it a prophecy or a proverb?

[00:11:19] It is a wisdom text.

[00:11:20] It's not a promise.

[00:11:21] What it's saying is,

[00:11:22] this is how a wise parent would live.

[00:11:26] Train a child in this way.

[00:11:28] At the end of the day,

[00:11:30] they may or may not be saved,

[00:11:31] but this is what you do.

[00:11:32] And again, genre would make all the difference

[00:11:35] in that instance.

[00:11:37] So identify the genre

[00:11:38] of the text you're working with.

[00:11:41] Thirdly, history and culture.

[00:11:43] This, of course, does matter.

[00:11:46] Taking a look,

[00:11:47] obviously in narrative portions of the Bible,

[00:11:50] it's a little more upfront and obvious

[00:11:52] what the history and culture is,

[00:11:54] like what's going on, for example,

[00:11:56] dietary laws, religious ceremonies, customs.

[00:11:59] The particular scruples of people

[00:12:01] are often displayed in the text.

[00:12:03] But what about a didactic text?

[00:12:05] What if you're dealing with Corinthians

[00:12:07] and head coverings and all that kind of stuff?

[00:12:09] Like, that's not fully explained there.

[00:12:11] I'm like, what in the world?

[00:12:12] You know, modern person.

[00:12:13] I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about.

[00:12:15] So you are gonna need to look into the history

[00:12:18] and the culture in the background.

[00:12:20] I do caution people with this personally,

[00:12:23] because even those historical cultural references,

[00:12:26] this is how I look at it,

[00:12:28] those are not divinely inspired.

[00:12:30] So they can be very helpful,

[00:12:31] but I don't ever wanna consult

[00:12:33] a historical cultural resource

[00:12:35] that gives me a meaning,

[00:12:37] a background that doesn't fit well

[00:12:40] into the text of scripture.

[00:12:42] And we see this actually happening a lot

[00:12:44] in biblical studies in various circles,

[00:12:47] taking foreign cultural meanings

[00:12:49] and trying to shove them into the text.

[00:12:51] So even if they claim to be an expert

[00:12:53] in history or culture,

[00:12:54] it needs to fit well with what the text is saying.

[00:12:58] But it helps to realize

[00:13:00] that the Bible is dealing with real times,

[00:13:02] real people, real places, real problems.

[00:13:06] I put it to you this way.

[00:13:07] Be a missionary in your reading.

[00:13:09] The goal of being a missional reader of the Bible

[00:13:13] is to set down as best you can

[00:13:15] your own cultural baggage

[00:13:18] and to pick up as much as possible

[00:13:21] the cultural baggage of the original audience.

[00:13:24] So picture that.

[00:13:25] Become self-aware.

[00:13:27] And obviously when we visit different countries,

[00:13:30] we go to different backgrounds,

[00:13:31] we interact with people from different cultures,

[00:13:34] we start to get a sense of our own.

[00:13:36] That's one of the most beautiful things about it.

[00:13:37] It's not only do we get to know other people,

[00:13:39] I actually get to know myself better.

[00:13:41] I get to see the little idiosyncrasies

[00:13:43] of my country, our culture, this group, that group.

[00:13:47] But one of the things that can help us do

[00:13:48] as modern people is see

[00:13:49] what are our shared modern assumptions.

[00:13:52] And as much as possible,

[00:13:54] not saying right or wrong,

[00:13:55] suspending moral judgment for a moment,

[00:13:57] simply set it aside

[00:13:59] and try to really enter into the world of the text,

[00:14:03] the world of the writer,

[00:14:04] the world of the original audience of scripture.

[00:14:08] Walk around in it.

[00:14:09] Get a feel for what's going on.

[00:14:12] Again, one of the great things about the Bible,

[00:14:14] real times, real people, real places, real problems.

[00:14:18] Lastly, a word of advice with respect to observation.

[00:14:21] Question the text.

[00:14:24] Question the text.

[00:14:25] I don't mean question the authority.

[00:14:27] Interview, like Mike does on Expositors Collective.

[00:14:30] We were just talking about what a brilliant job he does

[00:14:33] at being curious.

[00:14:35] And I would encourage you,

[00:14:37] be equally curious about the Bible.

[00:14:40] What's going on?

[00:14:41] Ask it questions.

[00:14:44] Ask who, what, where, when, why, how.

[00:14:49] And by the way, I actually find for me personally,

[00:14:52] in a way this gets harder the longer you've been teaching the Bible.

[00:14:56] So if anyone's new and you feel intimidated,

[00:14:57] oh, I don't know as much as so-and-so,

[00:14:59] honestly, you actually have advantages.

[00:15:00] Believe me.

[00:15:01] Because part of the problem with knowing the Bible really well

[00:15:04] and teaching it a million times,

[00:15:05] you begin to assume people know what you know.

[00:15:10] But if you're going to preach the word to people who don't know the word,

[00:15:14] that's exactly what you can't be doing.

[00:15:16] So ironically, if you're new to teaching the Bible,

[00:15:19] if you're new, you know,

[00:15:20] that actually could be an advantage for you.

[00:15:24] So try to look for others at the text.

[00:15:29] Try to speak for others.

[00:15:31] Try to ask, what would my congregation know?

[00:15:33] When you read about all the Pharisees and Sadducees were arguing,

[00:15:36] you're like, oh yeah, I know who they are

[00:15:37] and I know where they came from

[00:15:38] and I know they're not mentioned at all in the Old Testament.

[00:15:40] All of a sudden, boom, magically, they're on the New Testament.

[00:15:42] I know the intertestamental.

[00:15:43] Okay.

[00:15:43] Okay.

[00:15:44] Does everyone else know that?

[00:15:47] Or do you need to ask for them?

[00:15:49] What's going on?

[00:15:50] So really be like a child in your curiosity.

[00:15:55] Ask the text.

[00:15:56] I would rather kind of be guilty on that.

[00:15:57] Like ask too many questions.

[00:16:00] Ask everything.

[00:16:01] And then you can sift through later,

[00:16:02] hey, what were the ones I think were most valuable

[00:16:04] or pertinent to my audience?

[00:16:07] Now the second step, interpretation.

[00:16:09] What does the text mean?

[00:16:11] Now this is not the same thing as what does the text say.

[00:16:16] You could actually do step one very well.

[00:16:19] You could observe the text.

[00:16:20] You could look at the language and the grammar,

[00:16:22] the genre, the history, the culture.

[00:16:23] You could ask who, what, where, when, why, how.

[00:16:25] And you could still make a wrong interpretation

[00:16:30] because context matters.

[00:16:32] And there are actually circles of context.

[00:16:36] Now what are those circles?

[00:16:38] Again, these could be in different orders.

[00:16:39] And I'm not saying you have to consciously think

[00:16:42] through all of these all the time.

[00:16:43] I think you should be aware of them.

[00:16:45] At minimum, whatever you get in observation

[00:16:48] should be checked against each of these.

[00:16:50] So let me run through them briefly.

[00:16:52] Number one, canonical.

[00:16:55] What does canonical mean?

[00:16:56] It means, so let's say you taught John 3, 16.

[00:16:59] Right, that's your verse.

[00:17:00] You taught one verse that Wednesday night,

[00:17:02] Thursday, small group, whatever.

[00:17:06] What you are about to say about John 3, 16,

[00:17:08] does it ring true with the rest of the Bible as a whole?

[00:17:14] Because though John might be a different writer than Paul

[00:17:16] and Paul's different than Daniel,

[00:17:18] Daniel different than Isaiah or Moses,

[00:17:20] yet it's one book, right?

[00:17:22] One divine author speaking through

[00:17:24] the many different human authors.

[00:17:26] And so whatever God says in one place,

[00:17:29] it can't contradict another.

[00:17:32] I'm not an Anglican,

[00:17:33] but my Anglican friends would be proud of me

[00:17:35] when I quote one of my favorite lines

[00:17:37] from the 39 articles.

[00:17:39] It's article 20.

[00:17:39] Listen to this.

[00:17:40] I love this line.

[00:17:41] It is not lawful for the church to ordain

[00:17:43] anything that is contrary to God's word written.

[00:17:46] Here it is.

[00:17:46] Neither may it so expound one place of scripture

[00:17:50] that it be repugnant to another.

[00:17:54] You can come up with meaning in a verse

[00:17:56] that sounds good,

[00:17:57] meets the observational criteria I laid down,

[00:18:00] and yet if you were to compare that

[00:18:02] to somewhere else in the Bible,

[00:18:04] doesn't fit.

[00:18:05] This is what cults do with scripture,

[00:18:07] do they not?

[00:18:09] They can come up with an interpretation

[00:18:11] that actually,

[00:18:12] if you notice this,

[00:18:13] let's be fair to them,

[00:18:14] it works sometimes.

[00:18:17] The whole idea of the Trinity,

[00:18:19] it's not like it was an easy concept

[00:18:21] for the early church to come up with,

[00:18:22] but it made the best sense

[00:18:24] out of just one random passage of scripture

[00:18:27] or all of what the Bible had to say

[00:18:29] about the one God,

[00:18:31] covenantal monotheism of Israel

[00:18:34] revealing himself in the person

[00:18:35] of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

[00:18:38] And the Trinity made sense.

[00:18:40] So whatever you're gonna say about Christ,

[00:18:41] the nature of Christ,

[00:18:42] the Father, the Spirit,

[00:18:43] it has to all accord with the canon.

[00:18:46] So the canon means the whole book,

[00:18:49] the whole Bible.

[00:18:50] Now this won't be like a weekly thing for much,

[00:18:52] but this is why even when you're not

[00:18:54] preparing a sermon,

[00:18:55] just be in the Word.

[00:18:56] Read the Bible.

[00:18:57] Plow through the Bible.

[00:18:58] Just go over and over and over

[00:19:00] and over and over again.

[00:19:02] You will be a more canonical man or woman,

[00:19:05] a more canonical teacher

[00:19:06] as you simply go through the Bible

[00:19:07] on your own all the time,

[00:19:09] never quit.

[00:19:11] Number two, redemptive historical.

[00:19:14] I'll break that down simply.

[00:19:15] I'm talking about the narrative structure

[00:19:17] of the Bible,

[00:19:18] the way the story flows.

[00:19:19] And practically speaking,

[00:19:21] when you're interpreting a text,

[00:19:22] it's important to ask,

[00:19:24] where in the story am I?

[00:19:28] Where in the story are they?

[00:19:30] I don't know if you've had this experience,

[00:19:32] but I've been in churches,

[00:19:33] wonderful Christian churches.

[00:19:34] They were teaching through the Old Testament,

[00:19:36] often for eight out of 10 years.

[00:19:39] And as they're spending time

[00:19:41] in the Old Testament,

[00:19:42] they're teaching the Old Testament

[00:19:44] to a modern congregation

[00:19:45] like we're still under the Mosaic law.

[00:19:49] And they've justified it.

[00:19:51] Well, we're in the Old Testament.

[00:19:52] That's why I'm teaching them

[00:19:54] to obey the Mosaic.

[00:19:57] Redemptive historical.

[00:19:58] That's great.

[00:19:58] You're going through the Old Testament.

[00:19:59] You ought to.

[00:20:00] But you have to ask

[00:20:02] the redemptive historical narrative question.

[00:20:04] Where are we in the story?

[00:20:06] You've got to update us.

[00:20:07] When you're teaching the Old Testament,

[00:20:08] you have to say,

[00:20:09] yes, but Christ fulfilled us.

[00:20:12] We are no longer under the Old Covenant.

[00:20:14] We are under the New Covenant.

[00:20:15] And you have to teach that way.

[00:20:17] You can't just simply comment

[00:20:19] on the Old Testament and say,

[00:20:20] and it applies to you in this way.

[00:20:23] Thirdly, doctrinal.

[00:20:25] And by doctrinal,

[00:20:26] fancy term, systematic theology,

[00:20:29] categorical teaching.

[00:20:30] What does the Bible as a whole say

[00:20:32] about a particular subject?

[00:20:33] Doctrine of God.

[00:20:34] Doctrine of Christ.

[00:20:35] Doctrine of sin.

[00:20:36] Doctrine of salvation.

[00:20:37] Doctrine of the church.

[00:20:38] Doctrine of last things.

[00:20:40] Be thinking categorically

[00:20:42] about these things.

[00:20:44] Fourth, ecclesiastical.

[00:20:46] By that, I mean reading with the church.

[00:20:49] We shouldn't be autonomous interpreters.

[00:20:52] We should be reading with the church.

[00:20:55] And when I say reading with the church,

[00:20:57] I mean both present and past.

[00:21:00] Now, we've got people

[00:21:01] from different backgrounds.

[00:21:02] So whether you're Southern Baptist,

[00:21:05] American Baptist, Presbyterian,

[00:21:06] Calvary Chapel, non-denom, CMA,

[00:21:08] it doesn't matter.

[00:21:09] I respect where you come from.

[00:21:11] And what I would say is,

[00:21:13] if you've got a confession,

[00:21:15] if you've got a statement,

[00:21:15] if you've got core values,

[00:21:17] reflect on those

[00:21:18] as you're teaching the text.

[00:21:20] If you're a Baptist

[00:21:20] and you sign onto the Baptist faith,

[00:21:23] like think about that.

[00:21:24] How does this reflect and support?

[00:21:26] And again, I'm a believer in that.

[00:21:28] I'm a believer in the local church.

[00:21:29] Even if I might be on this side over here,

[00:21:32] on this thing,

[00:21:33] I believe that's actually valuable, important.

[00:21:36] I also think we should think of

[00:21:37] reading what the church is reading in the past.

[00:21:41] Read from those who have come before you.

[00:21:43] If nothing else,

[00:21:45] and I believe you will get much more,

[00:21:47] but if nothing else,

[00:21:48] you will be hearing from those

[00:21:50] reading the same Bible

[00:21:51] from an entirely different perspective.

[00:21:54] So Reformation commentary,

[00:21:56] reading what the Reformers have to say,

[00:21:59] whether it's the ancient church

[00:22:00] or even the church out in the broader world,

[00:22:03] in various cultures and places in the world,

[00:22:06] read with the church.

[00:22:07] And I'm not saying you're gonna subscribe

[00:22:09] to everything you find there,

[00:22:10] but I believe it is a part of our discipline

[00:22:13] as interpreters submitting

[00:22:14] to the work of God in the church universal.

[00:22:20] Lastly, gospel, right?

[00:22:22] And this certainly isn't last,

[00:22:24] but you'll notice,

[00:22:24] it's the thing that enfolds everything else.

[00:22:27] At the center of the Bible,

[00:22:29] there is a gravitational pull

[00:22:31] towards what is called the kerugma,

[00:22:33] the kerugma,

[00:22:34] the irreducible core of apostolic preaching,

[00:22:38] which says Jesus Christ is Lord.

[00:22:42] That's the center of the Bible.

[00:22:44] You could teach true things about the Bible

[00:22:48] and not teach the essence of Scripture

[00:22:52] and expounding what it means to say

[00:22:55] Jesus Christ is Lord,

[00:22:57] how you're saved by grace,

[00:22:58] how you're saved through faith,

[00:23:00] to the glory of God alone,

[00:23:02] Scripture alone, right?

[00:23:04] Pointing to the center of what it is

[00:23:05] and coming back to that

[00:23:07] and reflecting on it

[00:23:08] because that is the basis of our salvation.

[00:23:11] And if that's not there,

[00:23:13] then again,

[00:23:13] we immediately fall into a works-based mentality.

[00:23:17] I'm somehow going to build my stairway to heaven

[00:23:20] through the five points the pastor just shared.

[00:23:22] So everything is enfolded in the gospel.

[00:23:26] And lastly, number three,

[00:23:29] application.

[00:23:30] How should we respond to the text?

[00:23:34] Number one,

[00:23:35] you're exegeting your congregation.

[00:23:38] It's important to know your people

[00:23:40] and know your context.

[00:23:42] If you're a guest speaker,

[00:23:43] obviously you're very limited oftentimes

[00:23:45] in how you can do that.

[00:23:46] But as much as possible,

[00:23:49] exegete, interpret, understand,

[00:23:52] dwell within the community to whom you are preaching

[00:23:55] so that you can apply the text in a faithful manner.

[00:23:59] We see that the New Testament writings

[00:24:01] are very contextual themselves.

[00:24:04] Some people are wrestling with a Gnostic gospel, right?

[00:24:09] Denying that Jesus was fully human.

[00:24:12] But then others are denying that he's fully God.

[00:24:14] And does it help to know which particular error

[00:24:16] they're coming from

[00:24:17] in order you can speak to that?

[00:24:20] So exegete the congregation.

[00:24:21] And lastly,

[00:24:23] you're helping people become like Christ.

[00:24:26] And I use the classic two-fold division

[00:24:28] of his person and his work.

[00:24:31] You're wanting to show how the text enables them

[00:24:34] to become like Christ and his character.

[00:24:37] We are to become like Jesus.

[00:24:39] We are to imitate Christ.

[00:24:42] Christ.

[00:24:42] And Christ has given us meaningful work to do

[00:24:44] else we would not be here.

[00:24:46] We would not be alive.

[00:24:48] He would have just taken us up to heaven

[00:24:49] immediately upon salvation.

[00:24:51] That's it.

[00:24:51] No, you're here

[00:24:52] because you've been given work to do.

[00:24:54] So how does this text,

[00:24:55] and my brother began with 2 Timothy 3.16,

[00:24:59] all scripture is inspired,

[00:25:00] given by inspiration of God,

[00:25:01] profitable for doctrine,

[00:25:02] reproof, for correction,

[00:25:03] for instruction in righteousness,

[00:25:05] that the person,

[00:25:06] anthropos,

[00:25:06] man of God,

[00:25:07] woman of God,

[00:25:08] person of God,

[00:25:09] may be thoroughly equipped

[00:25:11] for every good work,

[00:25:13] becoming like Christ.

[00:25:16] And that is the inductive Bible study method.

[00:25:18] And I am out of time,

[00:25:19] so we got the no frills cut off here.

[00:25:22] So, Mike.

[00:25:25] Hey, thanks for listening all the way to the end.

[00:25:27] Really appreciate Mike's contribution

[00:25:30] to this conversation

[00:25:32] about the inductive Bible study method.

[00:25:34] For those of you that listen to this podcast regularly

[00:25:37] or those of you that have attended

[00:25:39] one of our in-person events,

[00:25:41] you know that the inductive Bible study method

[00:25:44] is one of our core modules.

[00:25:46] We make sure to include it

[00:25:49] in every training event that we do.

[00:25:52] And also, every couple of months,

[00:25:54] we have an episode about this on the podcast

[00:25:56] because we believe it's really important.

[00:25:58] At the core of Expositors Collective,

[00:26:01] we don't want to just help you

[00:26:02] to communicate better

[00:26:04] and be better public speakers.

[00:26:06] We want to make sure

[00:26:07] you have something worth saying.

[00:26:08] And a study method

[00:26:11] that puts your nose in the book

[00:26:13] that really causes you

[00:26:15] to examine and query the text

[00:26:19] to notice things

[00:26:21] ensures that when you speak in public,

[00:26:24] you'll have something worth saying

[00:26:26] from God's Word.

[00:26:27] We speak about how our goal

[00:26:29] at Expositors Collective

[00:26:30] is to help you grow

[00:26:32] in your personal study

[00:26:33] and your public proclamation

[00:26:35] of God's Word.

[00:26:36] So episodes like this

[00:26:38] are really important to us

[00:26:39] to make sure that we're focusing

[00:26:40] on that personal study.

[00:26:43] Also, last thought before we finish,

[00:26:46] I have a bit of a confession to make.

[00:26:48] I, when I was listening to this

[00:26:51] to prepare it for being broadcast,

[00:26:54] I was freshly convicted

[00:26:56] by what Mike was saying

[00:26:59] a few minutes ago

[00:27:00] about the importance

[00:27:01] of being curious

[00:27:03] on behalf of others.

[00:27:06] That there's certain things

[00:27:08] that those of us

[00:27:08] that have been Bible students

[00:27:10] or Bible teachers

[00:27:11] for a long time,

[00:27:12] things that we take for granted,

[00:27:14] we need to realize

[00:27:15] that for our hearers,

[00:27:17] it might be brand new to them.

[00:27:19] So last Sunday,

[00:27:21] I was talking about

[00:27:22] the conflicts

[00:27:24] that Jesus was having

[00:27:25] with the Pharisees

[00:27:27] and the Sadducees.

[00:27:28] I spent a few minutes

[00:27:30] summarizing the difference

[00:27:32] between what the Pharisees believe

[00:27:34] and what the Sadducees believe.

[00:27:36] And in my preparation,

[00:27:39] I remembered the phrase

[00:27:41] that I heard a lot

[00:27:42] as a kid in youth group,

[00:27:46] that the Sadducees don't believe

[00:27:48] in the bodily resurrection,

[00:27:50] and that's why

[00:27:51] they were so sad, you see.

[00:27:53] And I heard that a lot

[00:27:55] as a teenager.

[00:27:56] I heard that a lot

[00:27:57] even in Bible college.

[00:27:59] And I kind of said like,

[00:28:00] you know what?

[00:28:00] That's such a cheesy saying.

[00:28:02] I don't want to say it

[00:28:03] on Sunday morning.

[00:28:05] And so I didn't say it.

[00:28:08] Then afterwards,

[00:28:09] someone came up to me

[00:28:10] and asked why I didn't say that.

[00:28:12] And I said,

[00:28:13] it's so cliche.

[00:28:14] And this older,

[00:28:15] wiser Christian

[00:28:16] in my church,

[00:28:17] he said,

[00:28:18] you know what?

[00:28:18] I know that phrase.

[00:28:20] You know that phrase.

[00:28:21] And then he gestured

[00:28:22] towards the people

[00:28:25] that were milling around

[00:28:25] having coffee

[00:28:26] and chatting after service,

[00:28:27] many of whom

[00:28:29] have come from rough lives,

[00:28:31] many of whom

[00:28:32] are only sober

[00:28:33] for a number of months,

[00:28:35] most of whom

[00:28:36] have not grown up

[00:28:37] in youth group

[00:28:38] and they never went

[00:28:39] to Bible college.

[00:28:40] And he pointed towards them

[00:28:42] and said,

[00:28:42] you know, Mike,

[00:28:43] but they've never heard

[00:28:44] that before.

[00:28:45] And you don't want to withhold

[00:28:46] something that's helpful.

[00:28:48] Even if it sounds cheesy to you,

[00:28:50] it can be helpful to others.

[00:28:53] And so that was a gentle rebuke

[00:28:54] from Mervyn

[00:28:55] at church on Sunday.

[00:28:57] And then listening

[00:28:59] even to this content,

[00:29:01] Mike Chaddick kind of reminded me

[00:29:02] of the importance

[00:29:03] of being curious,

[00:29:05] not reading things

[00:29:06] as a man

[00:29:08] who's been teaching

[00:29:08] the Bible for 20 years,

[00:29:10] who's been reading it seriously

[00:29:11] for 35 years,

[00:29:13] who's been aware of it

[00:29:14] for 41 years.

[00:29:15] I need to come at this

[00:29:17] with the curiosity,

[00:29:18] reading it

[00:29:19] through the eyes

[00:29:20] of people

[00:29:22] that are brand new

[00:29:23] to all of this.

[00:29:24] So anyway,

[00:29:25] thanks Mike.

[00:29:26] And thanks to you,

[00:29:28] the listener,

[00:29:28] for listening

[00:29:29] all the way

[00:29:30] to the end.

[00:29:31] I hope that this episode

[00:29:33] and this

[00:29:34] prolonged outro

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